Should John Cena Turn Heel?

Should John Cena Turn Heel in 2012 after his match against the rock after Wrestlemania?.Hes never been heel before so I think it could be interesting.

He's been heel, before. His Doctor of Thuganomics gimmick was heel.

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The thing is, now, the kid friendly PG stuff isn't going away any time soon. The IWC has to accept that reality. That audience is too important to alienate, which is all a Cena heel turn right now would accomplish. How important is that market? Look at TNA's ratings for your answer.

Cena's the top guy for the kids and young teen girls, Punk for the grown up guys, and Orton for... older teen girls?

considering Cena is no longer the top money maker (Punk is ), its time to turn him heel. it doesnt make sense logically to keep someone a babyface when half the crowd is booing you night in and night out. when he beats the Rock at Mania, the crowd is going to destroy him. regardless if hes a face or not, he is going to be the heel going into that match, because the Miami crowd is going to eat him alive. if you thought Chicago was bad, itll be a lot worse

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considering Cena is no longer the top money maker (Punk is ), its time to turn him heel. it doesnt make sense logically to keep someone a babyface when half the crowd is booing you night in and night out. when he beats the Rock at Mania, the crowd is going to destroy him. regardless if hes a face or not, he is going to be the heel going into that match, because the Miami crowd is going to eat him alive. if you thought Chicago was bad, itll be a lot worse

Yup, bc there's going to be double... triple the amount of people at WM 28 as there were MITB.

The funny thing is... it still won't be as bad as One Night Stand 2006. That will live in infamy.

The crowds were against Rock when he faced Hogan at Wrestlemania. They got over it right after and Rock was immediately top face, again.

As much as you IWC folks want Little Jimmy and Little Jenny gone because you don't like the tykes running around underfoot at the arenas and supporting people you don't like, driving them away would be a very bad business move. You can thank the IWC Golden Boy before Punk, Chris Benoit, for that. He very nearly destroyed pro wrestling in North America, so now they're having to build a new audience from kids. Hence, the PG rating.

Also, can't help but notice that when it's a pro-Punk crowd like Chicago, the IWC says the fans have spoken and WWE should listen to them, but when the crowd is pro-Cena, the IWC is very quiet about it, and if it's brought up to them dismiss the crowd as "dumb marks" and say WWE shouldn't listen to them.

Remember, too, we were all Little Jimmy or Little Jenny at one time, so cut the new fans some slack. It takes a while to understand what makes one performer better than another. Little Jimmy and Little Jenny will learn, and will one day grow up into IWC folks who'll gripe about the next generation of kids being catered to.

Also, with merchandise... It helps having two new t-shirts on the market in the last few months.

Just keep the belt off Cena for a while. Austin and Rock didn't need to have the belt ALL the time.

All of that is COMPLETELY beside the point. It isn't about Little Jimmies, violence, or even Hornswaggle. It's about respectable wrestling and story lines. I personally don't need to see someone's brains bashed in to enjoy watching pro wrestling - just give me a respectable show.

BTW, when I was a "Little Jimmy," for the most part, I hated babyfaces. I always liked guys like Hogan, Bret, Warrior Macho Man. However, I always liked guys liked Ted DiBiase, HBK, Taker, Roddy Piper more. Heels have always appealed to me more. They're cooler and much more interesting.

I think needs to learn how to wrestle.

And where was the WWF, and pro wrestling in general, before Hulkamania? So, you, as a kid, preferred the heels? That made you one out of a thousand kids. Guess what counted more where the bottom line was concerned.

The problem for me has been catering solely to the Disney crowd. But, catering soley to the IWC wouldn't be good for business, either. Yeah, we love Punk's promos, but someone who has only been watching a few months isn't going to understand what he's going on about. Hell, I'd probably wind up as bored with Punk if he were constantly Champion as I am with Cena and Orton, now.

I don't think it has to be Either/Or. It should be possible to produce a product that both Little Jimmy and the IWC can enjoy. To use an example from the Hulkamania years: Wrestlemania III. Yeah, the main event was Hogan vs Andre. For many, though, that Wrestlemania was Savage vs Steamboat. Wrestlemania VII had Hogan-Slaughter as the main event, but for many, that WM was stolen by Miss Elizabeth, and the match that Chris Jericho said shows just how great Savage truly was, carrying Warrior to a classic.

Anyone who's visited the WWF/E Match Thread knows where I stand on the Hogan vs Savage debate. That also demonstrates that the current situation is nothing new. The Hogan-Savage argument was the Cena-Punk of it's day. I'd also guess Punk would rather to be compared to Savage than Hogan.

WWE's reason for not touching Cena was he was the top merchandise seller. Now that he's no longer the top merchandise seller, turn him. Or at the very least tweak him and make him more interesting.

i seem to recall that when Rock feuded with Lesnar..guess who got booed...it sure as hell wasnt Lesnar. when Rock came back after that, guess what he was...a heel

maybe he should maybe he shouldn't personally i think he needs to go away for a year or something and stop being in the main event.

and all this CM Punk heading in the merchandise business....aren't these statistics like monthly ones, so who's to say Cena won't become top seller again

but still my viewpoints...meh

Please explain how DRIVING OFF the kids by completely alienating them would be good from a business perspective. That's all turning Cena heel would accomplish. Think of it as the business that's goal is to make money not only right now, but in the future.

Keep in mind that the fans who are little kids now will grow into teen fans (with younger siblings) in a few years, then grown-up fans with kids of their own.

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And where was the WWF, and pro wrestling in general, before Hulkamania? So, you, as a kid, preferred the heels? That made you one out of a thousand kids. Guess what counted more where the bottom line was concerned.

The problem for me has been catering solely to the Disney crowd. But, catering soley to the IWC wouldn't be good for business, either. Yeah, we love Punk's promos, but someone who has only been watching a few months isn't going to understand what he's going on about. Hell, I'd probably wind up as bored with Punk if he were constantly Champion as I am with Cena and Orton, now.

I don't think it has to be Either/Or. It should be possible to produce a product that both Little Jimmy and the IWC can enjoy. To use an example from the Hulkamania years: Wrestlemania III. Yeah, the main event was Hogan vs Andre. For many, though, that Wrestlemania was Savage vs Steamboat. Wrestlemania VII had Hogan-Slaughter as the main event, but for many, that WM was stolen by Miss Elizabeth, and the match that Chris Jericho said shows just how great Savage truly was, carrying Warrior to a classic.

Anyone who's visited the WWF/E Match Thread knows where I stand on the Hogan vs Savage debate. That also demonstrates that the current situation is nothing new. The Hogan-Savage argument was the Cena-Punk of it's day. I'd also guess Punk would rather to be compared to Savage than Hogan.

Again, this whole notion that the entire IWC want everything their way is ridiculous. Sure there is a large portion of people who are out there who have a sense of entitlement, but the generalization has to stop because it isn't true. Many just don't want to be subjected to shitty wrestlers and story lines. It's that simple!

Oh how I wish he would turn heel. But he's the ultimate babyface. I just dont see it happening.