The Women of Wrestling Debate Thread

Maryse had some okay-good matches with Michelle, Gail, Kelly, Melina, and that shockingly good one with Maria (lol.)

Layla has some okay-good matches with Kristal (perspectively), Kelly, Melina, Michelle and some kind of chemistry with Maria.

Neither has worked with a whole lot of competition, but I doubt that everyone they have worked against should get all the credit. That's what is what "carrying" is. Getting all the credit for a good match.

i dont think Layla needs help with the match. tbh ppl say things like divas botch all the time, i dont see many of them botch, more like be sloppy. Layla doesnt get the chance to have a lot of offense and doesnt do many moves that could be botched, as her aresnal consists of striking, kicking, and submissions
Layla has only one problem and that is her pace, sometimes shes too quick and the move that is about to get executed on her looks sloppy, and sometimes shes too slow, which just looks silly.
Layla is prolly never gonna get to show a lot, until WWE decide to use her for more then the filler tag partner who takes the fall.
Layla pulls off some inovative moves *for a model*, yet those are used very rarely due to the booking of the match, so ppl see her has not having knowledge or anything because of her lack of moves. If the divas where given more time, theyd be able to do more wrestling moves, and show that everyone of them do know something about wrestling.

ive never thought Maryse was that capable even before her injury, i think Layla is a lot better then Maryse in all aspects, she just needs a blonde wig
imo

Yeah, I see what you mean LL. There have been many times Layla was in place to take a move before the chick delivering it is ready to deliver it... And that usually leads to Layla throwing herself out of the ring or getting a stiff shot. I am surprised I haven't hear Layla talk about a broken nose or minor injury.

Though, she did have to get stitches above her eye. ouch.

i dont know tbh
it seems to me that Anglea doesnt care to wrestle anymore
even when she was still a full time FCWer, and reigning FCW Queen she stopped wrestling to announce...whats gives with that

I would like Savannah to wrestle on SD! as a face

well according to that house show result she did wrestle a match as a face
but just cos it was SD dont mean she will go there, Katie was on a Raw houeshow teamin with Alicia and Maryse, and shes on ECW too

Which 3 past divas do you think would do well in the current division now? NOT your favourties, the people you think would return and do well

I think Dawn Marie would do well on SD! if she returned maybe a Assitant GM and then start wrestling? Her vs Michelle I would love to see! (We can have a heel vs heel fued)

I also think if Ivory returned to RAW, I think she would be great as top face, turn Maryse face, and Melina heel, and have Ivory fued with Melina I would love it.


I think Brooke Adams would do well, I know she didnt wrestle when she was in WWE apart from the Summerslam battle royal which Beth won.I think if she trained hard she could do well, I would put her in a fued with Eve mabye?

So what are your thoughts,who do you think would do well if they came back?

Molly
Ivory
Dawn Marie

lol Brooke Adams

I wouldn't have minded to see Brooke Adams train some more and wrestle. She was gorgeous.

With the little we saw (Halloween Battle Royal for example) I thought Brooke was taking to wrestling really well. I wonder what she's up to nowadays

Do you think Michelle vs Mickie should have a few more matches? Or Beth Phoenix should fued with Michelle and Mickie?


I would like to see a few more Mickie/Michelle matches, mabye one next week for the title, Michelle manages to retain the title leaving Mickie annoyed. Then a hardcore match, which Mickie wins and then have threat fued with Beth vs Mickie vs Michelle

Well they are building Beth up so I rather her be included too. It looks like she is. And No offense to Michelle but she needs to drop that title soon, shes had it for a very long time. I think its time for a title change. Im getting bored with Michelle's run. I just feel shes not doing anything with the title excpet picking on Mickie.

I hope Beth gets it next. I think this title match and change should happen at the Royal Rumble.

I'd rather see Beth vs Michelle. Mickie had her chance with Michelle and only pulled off an okay match. Beth and Michelle would be so much more entertaining

Beth and Michelle will happen soon
but until Michelle fully recovers from this knee problem, be prepared to see more Beth v Mickie/Layla or Mickie v Beth/Layla

although i tell ya for now they better hurry up about it though, cos i am fed up of Beth v Mickie

What do you think would of happened if Krissy Vaine stayed on Smackdown? I would have loved Krissy to stay on Smackdown, and have a crazy physco gimmick I would have loved that Torrie vs Krissy


So what do you think would of happened if Krissy stayed on Smackdown? Would her or Torrie be the first divas champion? Would she fued with Michelle?

If Serena didnt have her head shaved? Do you think she will be on SD now?

Krissy-I think she will be a top diva and have been divas champ by now.

Serena-I dont think she will have brought up if she wasnt willin to shave her head.

Serena got implants and a nose job, along with shaving her head.

I call that passion for the business.

its just a shame, that its not a great career move thus far...well thats speculation
i just expect her to fizzle out with Luke Gallows once Cm Punk moves on from his society, i do not expect her to leave Punk and start wrestling on her own

I hope Serena doesnt fizzle out after SES breaks up. I seen her wrestle some and she is very good.

When they want SES to break up, Punk should Kick Serena out, which means she turns face, then she gets entered into to divison, maybe feuding with Nat, Hoping she has the belt at that time. Then Serena gets the belt after a long feud.

I really hope they use Serena after she breaks away from SES, Shes done so much to get in, made sacrifices, including getting implants, a nose job and her head shaved. Shes shown she will do anything to be in WWE, WWE should thank for for that and reward her.

janine wrote:

I really hope they use Serena after she breaks away from SES, Shes done so much to get in, made sacrifices, including getting implants, a nose job and her head shaved. Shes shown she will do anything to be in WWE, WWE should thank for for that and reward her.

Oh wwe loves doing that, just look how they thanked Jillian??? 3 minutes of glory. someone who like Serena, got loaded with implants, has COMPLETLY transformed just to reach close to what WWE wants her to look like and well.....look how they are thanking her for it.

Jillian Hall OVW>> Jillian in WWE, she had a solid strong, super bratty gimmick, hell i'd say she played the b***** character better then Melina when she was down in OVW.

I could remember when they had a Halloween costume contest and Jillian came out dressed as herself and saying something along the lines of "I'm dressed as Jillian hall, something this good shouldn't be covered up, plus all those girls want to be just like me it's the best costume in the world" (keep in mind was a while back, not those lines in particular but something along the lines of that, she was just that stuck up lol) Gotta luv Jilly back then.

New Question (hopefully it'll bring some debates)

Should Mickie James go to TNA and who should be the first person she feuds with and why?

I think Mickie should go to TNA, I think she could fued with Tara that would be a great fued

I think Mickie should just let her 90 days ride and enjoy the time off for right now. Enjoy her new music career right now honestly maybe a year or 2 join TNA but I think she should just worry about her new love aka music

i dont want Mickie in TNA
shes got a whole new career planned...and also she is very decorated as it is.
and we ALL know that she just like the male superstars from WWE would go to TNA and get pushed immediatly
look at Tara, i LOVED Victoria, but i hate Tara cos shes a 3 time champ across three years, and the Knockout title seems a joke now
Katie i wouldnt mind...because she never got her shine in WWE, and i like Katie, and the only way i will get to see her now, is if she does go to TNA, cos thats the only other TV weekly wrestling show.....i want to see her get a shot, but i would prefer if it came after a while, not immediately
Ive seen enough Mickie now, i got bored a while ago, her last 2 years on Raw was just boring, her stint on SD got me back into her, cos she shat out a shit load of good emotions and it also brought somehting new to the divas, an actual in depth storyline that got Layla and Michelle SOME reactions, made Layla useful and got Beth turning face

Lets talk about Rosa Mendes on how she is great on the mic, but just TERRIBLE in the ring.

Its pretty sad.

I love her, her mic work cracks me up but she really is bad in the ring, I don;t think we'll get much debate because pretty much everyone agrees lol

Yeah, I mean, as long as she has been training you'd think she would be somewhat "ok". But she is still TERRIBLE.

I think she should just be released. Some people have it...Some can get it..And some just don't have it. Rosa is one of those people. Melina has already done the bitchy latin thing ages ago, and Rosa won't be getting anywhere from using it.

She should just be a valet, nothing more, nothing less. Not every diva has to get in the ring, we can use a couple of valets with personality and Rosa Mendes fits the bill.

I think Rosa should hook up with Dolph Ziggler. They will make a perfect couple.

oh they would, both sexy lil mofos

Maybe she can have her head shaved and join SES. :P

Rosa Mendes bald cracks me up just thinking about it!

New topic!

Kelly Kelly sucks. It drives me crazy when people says she has improved because she has been doing the same thing/moves since 2008!

I'm sorry, but she should NOT be going for the title. She isn't good.

Because i guess doing the same thing means you didn't improve??? But doing new moves, yet managing to not properly transition from Offense to bumping and managing to look lost in the ring means you improved???


Boy it's a crazy world we live in. I Guess Melissa hasn't improved one bit, her finisher has been the Kudo Driver and the Air Raid Crash since 2006 and she's been using the curb stomp since forever....My god Cheerleader Melissa....YOU SUCK!!! You been doing the same shitz since 2006!!!

TornadoDDT wrote:

New topic!

Kelly Kelly sucks. It drives me crazy when people says she has improved because she has been doing the same thing/moves since 2008!

I'm sorry, but she should NOT be going for the title. She isn't good.

I find it hilarious how she started REALLY improving as soon she went to SD. Over on Raw she was a lazy spotmonkey :ewwa:

agreed about the title though, should not win any of them.

i dont think Layla looks lost in the ring THAT much...and i even watched last nights match again, and fail to see how she was totally lost
and urg...she has improved with her basic knowledge and shit...and although her transitions into the opponents move do looke chreographed...id still rather that, then have her or Kelly get injured because Kelly comes flying out of no where when Layla isnt ready

Kiwi, thats not exactly what I meant with Kelly.

I think you read into things to hard.

My point is, whether she is doing the same thing or not...Kelly does not come off believable to me. No charisma, and no talent. Layla can speak very well, and hold her own in the ring, and it drives me insane when people act like she is horrible.

Sure she has done the same moves, but because she has done the same moves you'd think they'd be crisp and believable by now, but their not. She has an awkward spot in every match she is in, and its disappointing.

TornadoDDT wrote:

Kiwi, thats not exactly what I meant with Kelly.

I think you read into things to hard.

My point is, whether she is doing the same thing or not...Kelly does not come off believable to me. No charisma, and no talent. Layla can speak very well, and hold her own in the ring, and it drives me insane when people act like she is horrible.

Sure she has done the same moves, but because she has done the same moves you'd think they'd be crisp and believable by now, but their not. She has an awkward spot in every match she is in, and its disappointing.

Preach it!

What do you think SD would be like now if Beth had won the title??

She'll be feuding with Serena by now (at least I hope so)

LH wrote:

What do you think SD would be like now if Beth had won the title??

A lot better. She is the most deserving to have that title on that show.

tbh shed still be fueding with Michelle and Layla
until SD moves to ScFi were they could bring someone else over

Serena wont be wrestling on WWE TV any time soon...if ever.
and the only thing Beth could do is feud with either Layla, Michelle or Rosa
Layla and Michelle arent seperate people anymore, they are a duo. Rosa....well no.

If Beth had the title things will be a heck of a lot better. We wouldnt get this co champ crap.

But Michelle probably will have gone through her too. I cant bare the thought of that.

It definitely would've been way better if Beth had the belt though she would be still feuding with LayCool. I don't think Michelle would've went through her though since she was getting a pretty good push til her injury.