Kelly Kelly and Eve torres

Do you think Kelly and eve are atleast desecent wrestlers now I mean there not that good like melina and gail kim but they both are decent good wrestlers to me.

ssilva872 wrote:

They are not that bad but I don't think either is ready for a title win just yet.

I think hey could be I mean why not? Maryse was champion and they are both better than her when it comes to in ring work.

Either way I am not expecting either to have the title anytime soon.

As for them as wrestlers they have definitely shown that they can carry their own. Yesterdays matches were pretty good. Eve's definitely seemed rushed cause of the time constrain but they managed not to botch anything even when rushing so that was awesome.

Both Eve & Kelly definitely have the wrestling aspect of the business down, or at least know what they are doing. Everyone is different so some might look better that others in the ring but at the end of the day they are all "wrestling".

Eh all three *maryse too* are overated as far as what they can do. Eve still looks sloppy, her match with Katie shows this, Kelly is getting better, but she desperatly needs to get rid of that jumping hurricanrana. Maryse considering how much ring time she has gotten since 2008 is still quite sloppy, and her matches mostly consist of taunts, this just shows how little she actually knows or cares to use.
either way all three arent terrible dont get me wrong, and all improve constantly, but so does all the other divas.
Debra, Kat, Hervina, Candice, David Arquette, Vince Russo, all managed to win titles, so them three winning would be just as acceptable.

Im getting annoyed with the way people are going on about how Kelly Kelly should have won the match and that she should be divas champion Im sorry but Alicia was great yestday, Kelly was good, her attire was awful though.

I think Kelly needs to improve yet and I dont see her with the title until next year.

I like Eve as well however she needs to change her ring attire

I think both girls have improved. But I think Alicia has improved the most out of all the models and I rank her above Eve, Kelly Maryse, Maria, ect..


I think Alicia is ready for the Divas title, Eve maybe at the end of the year and Kelly maybe next year.

i see it being either Maryse or Gail who wins it...or as i mentioned in the other thread, WWE could just go all out and make Eve the champ, and have her feud with Maryse, who would still be pissed after losing to her in the semis

hahahhahah he called Melina good

maybe to him Melina is good
it all depends on what your comparing it too.
if your someone who doesnt watch indy shows, or shimmer or something, then you would think Melina is good, cos out of the divas wwe have, she is one of the best. which is most likely his case.
where as to you, someone who does enjoy watching indy/shimmer, you have more of a variety to compare against, and considering all of the girls in shimmer are on par or surpass Melina in skills, you wont think shes good

lol Kelly is not that good and Eve could of got better since the last time i watched her wrestle.
melina is an ok wrestler she is not the best but she is one of the better ones.

Kelly Kelly's an idiot. I'm so sick of people saying she's improving. The b***** should have had the "skills" IN THE RING a long time ago.

Kelly IS improving, you could see that in her match with Alicia last night. I'm not a fan of hers but you can't deny her improvement since she had been shit before, but she's really trying now and I can respect that. Does she deserve the divas title? No, she's not even close to being ready for that and definitely isn't close to being a top diva.

As for Eve, I think she was doing better on SD, now that she's on Raw she's just meh to me and is rarely in the ring. I was not a fan of her match with Katie last night

LiE wrote:

Kelly Kelly's an idiot. I'm so sick of people saying she's improving. The b***** should have had the "skills" IN THE RING a long time ago.

This so much! Considering the amount of ring time she has had since moving to Raw she should be at Alicia's level by now. And I'm sorry but improving to me means that she continues to get better and Kelly doesn't. She has her good nights but most of the time she's fucking lazy and and it's annoying to see. It's almost like she will deliver when she chooses to.

I love Eve and I definitely think she shined on SD (Who doesn't?) She needs alot more ring time so I can judge how she is currently.

what haters! kelly is a future champion, deal with it! she has gotten soooo good!

We know she's a future champ (sadly)

i cant believe you people can deny kelly's improvement! just because your favorites arent getting pushed you get bitter!

its gonna be sooo amazing when she is divas champion.

Kelly Kelly sucks, her matches are such abortions I'm surprised pro-lifers don't start picketing when her entrance theme starts.

Blue Campbell wrote:

I love Eve and I definitely think she shined on SD (Who doesn't?) She needs alot more ring time so I can judge how she is currently.

This.

She held her own against Natalya and showed promised against Michelle. WWE has something special in Eve, and what do they do? They put her as eye candy for Masters.

Lauren wrote:

Kelly Kelly sucks, her matches are such abortions I'm surprised pro-lifers don't start picketing when her entrance theme starts.

LMFAO

That's PA-worthy right there

C-Unit Inc. wrote:

Blue Campbell wrote:

I love Eve and I definitely think she shined on SD (Who doesn't?) She needs alot more ring time so I can judge how she is currently.

This.

She held her own against Natalya and showed promised against Michelle. WWE has something special in Eve, and what do they do? They put her as eye candy for Masters.

She sucks, so, meh!

LH wrote:

Im getting annoyed with the way people are going on about how Kelly Kelly should have won the match and that she should be divas champion Im sorry but Alicia was great yestday, Kelly was good, her attire was awful though.

I think Kelly needs to improve yet and I dont see her with the title until next year.

I like Eve as well however she needs to change her ring attire

this is a example of a diva mark who doesnt like ppl having different opinions. who cares if you got annoyed, ppl feel Kelly shoulda won and thats their opinion. live with it

Blue Campbell wrote:

LiE wrote:

Kelly Kelly's an idiot. I'm so sick of people saying she's improving. The b***** should have had the "skills" IN THE RING a long time ago.

This so much! Considering the amount of ring time she has had since moving to Raw she should be at Alicia's level by now. And I'm sorry but improving to me means that she continues to get better and Kelly doesn't. She has her good nights but most of the time she's fucking lazy and and it's annoying to see. It's almost like she will deliver when she chooses to.

I love Eve and I definitely think she shined on SD (Who doesn't?) She needs alot more ring time so I can judge how she is currently.

Kelly sucks ass. Plain and f*****g simple. How long has this girl been on the main roster wrestling and training with people like Melina, Beth, Jillian and Mickie??????
I'm supposed to give her a pass cause what, she yells before doing that twirling windmill thing (which is actually a move carried off by the opponent). Or am I supposed to cheer her weak as punches and clotheslines. Or maybe her death defying leap from the apron???? FTW. How low are our standards for divas?? I say Eve aint' all that but she's hell of allot better than KK which isn't saying much but it's definitely something.

Wow Maybe I should of not started this I personally like Kelly Kelly I think some of you know that but In My opinon you have to cut not just kelly but all these divas who were not wrestler's when they were sign to WWE some slack (Kelly,Layla,Eve,etc,) There not the best but they can hold there own.

So your saying dont say anything nasty about Kelly?

I think that people should stuff about Kelly, as in my opinion Alicia Fox,Layla and Eve are all better wrestlers than Kelly and Layla, Alicia, and Eve werent in the ring as much Kelly, they try new moves unlike Kelly

LH wrote:

I wasnt talking about that, its there opinion I know, but when people are saying Kelly is the best diva in WWE and should have won, and never botches and always tries new moves out in a match, then I think that sounds stupid when all Kelly does is the same moves in every match and when she screams its so annoying

well then you shouldnt of said you were getting annoyed with ppl saying Kelly shoulda won lol

Onto more important things!

DL IS THIS YOUR OFFICIAL RETURN???? WELCOME BACK!

Carry on lol

Just because one has had time to improve doesn't mean that they should improve. This is wrestling and there is no correct way to work it. Some people are just better at it than others and you can't blame them really. Specially with those girls that are naturally athletic and those who are trying.

Take Rosa for example she has had a ton of time to work on her craft, yet she is not the greatest in the ring. It's not because she isn't trying, its because that's how she is. You can't magically become athletic and what not. But look at people like Eve who came at a later time, yet does better because she is athletic and built for sports like this.

You guys need to take everything into consideration when discussing who is bad or good -- it's more like Good or Better. That's how I see it anyways.

Oh I agree Pedro, of course none of this would be happening if they had stopped hiring models lol. But the Kelly's and Maria's and Rosa's get alot of flack because girls that recently made their debuts are already better then them. It's embarassing imo.

Blue Campbell wrote:

Oh I agree Pedro, of course none of this would be happening if they had stopped hiring models lol. But the Kelly's and Maria's and Rosa's get alot of flack because girls that recently made their debuts are already better then them. It's embarassing imo.

Yeah it definitely is, but I guess they are just naturally more gifted in those departments lol.

Well at least they have their beauty to keep em there for a while. Their wrestling too seeing as WWE isn't really bothered by it.

Pedro wrote:

Just because one has had time to improve doesn't mean that they should improve. This is wrestling and there is no correct way to work it. Some people are just better at it than others and you can't blame them really. Specially with those girls that are naturally athletic and those who are trying.

Take Rosa for example she has had a ton of time to work on her craft, yet she is not the greatest in the ring. It's not because she isn't trying, its because that's how she is. You can't magically become athletic and what not. But look at people like Eve who came at a later time, yet does better because she is athletic and built for sports like this.

You guys need to take everything into consideration when discussing who is bad or good -- it's more like Good or Better. That's how I see it anyways.

But you see, it's just as Blue pointed out - this could all be avoided by simply hiring women who actually have been trained before making their WWE debut instead of hiring women who'll be training on the job... for YEARS! It's understanderble that sex sells, but, there are plenty of wrestlers that are beautiful and that can actually hold a decent match.

And I agree it could have been avoided but why dwell in the past when there is nothing we can do about it. WWE hired them and love them, they aren't going anywhere in some time. And by they I mean models, not any specific diva.