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This is protesting the fact that women have consistently been carrying impact in the ratings for years, but make in the low hundred dollars.Madison and Daffney make $200 per match, Roxxi is rumoured to make $150, Kong was making $400 per match, and was released after she asked for a small payrise.She was their biggest tv ratings draw for most of the time she was there. Kong, Gail, Ariel and Tara have all compalained about this in various interviews.

However, Scott Hall gets $3000 per match, Ken Anderon gets $2500, Hardy and RVD make $10,000 per appearance and Christy is making more than all the other women put together.

Dave Meltzer says they do this because: 1) the feel the women are interchangable and 2) they know WWE won't sign most of them, and the girls will have to take whatever TNA gives them.
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that is why you have a part time job elsewhere. TNA isnt where you make a living if you are a woman. any idiot knows that.
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With all do respect, I think its unfair that girls like Chrisy and Chelsea(who from what I heard signed a big contract) are making more then the actual talented Wrestlers like Roxxi, Daffney, ect. Its like they couldnt afford to give Kong a raise but they can afford to pay girls like Christy and them? It doesnt add up.

Yeah TNA isnt where to make a living unless you are a big star or "hot" girl.
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TNA is just horrid with paying people..and corrupt as shit too. Backstage politics run that place.
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bump out of sheer boredom...

i believe me and Blue were discussing KOs pay recently...and i knew someone had posted their rates before.

and we all know Hamada makes $850 a match. Velvet and Maddie just got pay increases a few months ago. Maddie is making about $300 per match now..not sure on Velvet though.

funny how the champ, madison, still isnt making as much as Kong was.
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It is sad and pathetic but that is what TNA is..
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thats messed up.
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I know it's fucked up But I have a hard time feeling bad for them. Women's Wrestling ain't a draw and people can point to ratings but their high ratings were because of teens who want to see the beautiful people. Personally It would only make sense that none of them be near what Scott Hall gets paid cause in the End Scott Hall is a establish legend and been part of big wrestling. For all the people who bury Daniels for being indy and say he is overhyped and overpaid you can say the same for the Knockouts very few of them done any thing in the WWE and You don't want to overpay for someone who ain't worth it. Like Gail Kim TNA gave her a push she jumepd cause of Money and is eventually gonna end up crawling back to TNA. So why should they pay them more when they will be back soon alot of them.
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Because it's Sexist, plain and simple.

A woman still gets paid less for doing the same exact work as a man, how is that fair?

Scott Steiner...big wooop, did ratings fly through the roof when he came? What about Kurt ANgle? Booker T? Bobby Lashly?

Even if the teenage boys come to see TBP, they draw,it's like saying Because the woman produces over 1000 items a day, because a man came from a bigger company and only produces 600 items a day, he deserves to be paid better then the woman who is obviously working hard and producing more items then the man...but because she wasn't from som big company she deserves less?


That's bullshit, people like you are WHY women could never get ahead in any company, because like it or not, they are treated like a minority.
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I am realastic. If TNA don't want to pay there Knockouts more they don't got to it's stupid to say a company should be forced to raise there talent where if the talent is truly wanted and can get paid more else where they are able to leave the company. Nothing Sexist about it's good business because those same Knockouts are using TNA apperance to jack up there pay through other companies and for other appearances. So what TNA might pay them 300 dollars for they can charge a smaller company 600 or 700 because the are national tv because of TNA.
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I am realastic. If TNA don't want to pay there Knockouts more they don't got to it's stupid to say a company should be forced to raise there talent where if the talent is truly wanted and can get paid more else where they are able to leave the company. Nothing Sexist about it's good business because those same Knockouts are using TNA apperance to jack up there pay through other companies and for other appearances. So what TNA might pay them 300 dollars for they can charge a smaller company 600 or 700 because the are national tv because of TNA.

But if all companies think like you and say "Women don't Draw" and decide why bring in these TNA girls when we can find cheaper girls, because they don't draw anyways, where are they supposed to go?

Yeah some have Shimmer, but that's every 4/5 months, with a pay probably on the level TNA is paying them.

The mentality needs to change somewhere and it needs to start with TNA, Scott steiner may be getting 4 grand to work TNA, keep in mind these guys get over a grand to make only an appearance (which does not include wreslting, the fee goes up to near2 grand sometimes more, for them to wrestler) yet.....these TNA girls still get a mare 700 per show, and have to wrestler their ass off, while again the same big names get over 1000 just to show up. Again...how is that fair? Do they really need that Huge salary in TNA if they could do good outside of TNA, while these girls couldn't even pay a decent apartment if they added what TNA paid them and manage to get work at atleast one show.
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CP Munk wrote:
I am realastic. If TNA don't want to pay there Knockouts more they don't got to it's stupid to say a company should be forced to raise there talent where if the talent is truly wanted and can get paid more else where they are able to leave the company. Nothing Sexist about it's good business because those same Knockouts are using TNA apperance to jack up there pay through other companies and for other appearances. So what TNA might pay them 300 dollars for they can charge a smaller company 600 or 700 because the are national tv because of TNA.

But if all companies think like you and say "Women don't Draw" and decide why bring in these TNA girls when we can find cheaper girls, because they don't draw anyways, where are they supposed to go?

Yeah some have Shimmer, but that's every 4/5 months, with a pay probably on the level TNA is paying them.

The mentality needs to change somewhere and it needs to start with TNA, Scott steiner may be getting 4 grand to work TNA, keep in mind these guys get over a grand to make only an appearance (which does not include wreslting, the fee goes up to near2 grand sometimes more, for them to wrestler) yet.....these TNA girls still get a mare 700 per show, and have to wrestler their ass off, while again the same big names get over 1000 just to show up. Again...how is that fair? Do they really need that Huge salary in TNA if they could do good outside of TNA, while these girls couldn't even pay a decent apartment if they added what TNA paid them and manage to get work at atleast one show.


I don't think life is fair though. I mean eventually all companies are looking for best cheaper product. I mean this company was trying to sign old ecw wrestler for that amount and planned to make thousands off of them at the gate. It ain't just the knockouts who get bad pay. They pay people like Scott Hall that because they done it for years and become legends in the business. If I told you hey you can go to event and meet Kurt Angle who was just coming off WWE and get a chance to get a picture with him or a Knockout. I think Most fans would be thrilled at the chance to meet and see Kurt Angle over the knockout. They are only paying the people they feel are worth enough to make them a profit.
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You have to spend money to make money.

WWE had no problem throwing thousands at Trish and Lita to make them the Legends they are today.

TNA needs to wise up. The KOs could easily be an even bigger draw if TNA wasnt so selfish in how they expose them. They give the girls shit rates and barely use them. So ofcourse they arent going to bring TNA lots of money. when you only see certain girls once in a blue moon, how does she get a shot to connect with fans and make them care enough to want to see her again?

Trish and Lita were on tv at damn near every WWE show, barring injuries...and that all started because WWE decided to break the mold and go a step further with these ladies...and it paid off bigtime for them. It could pay off for TNA too if they got rid of the sexist mantra going around the biz these days.
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You have to spend money to make money.
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Sadly I think major business disagrees with that statement if you look why USA economy is so bad it is sadly because Big Business learned they can have their product made overseas and pay people 3 dollars a day. Make over hundreds of dollars more in profit then by selling it in the USA. I mean eventually some people learned they had to take less money and give up benefits just to have a job. It's sad but I mean TNA underpaying employees don't shock me.
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i think WWE agrees, you have to spend money to make money.
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WWE got more money to spend is more capable of mistake then TNA
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but still..WWE is proof you gotta spend money to make money.

TNA not making wise choices is their own fault. but they shouldnt cheap out on the KOs because management fucked up with the money.

that's unfair... the KOs didnt tell them to waste money on a bunch of hasbeens.
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but still..WWE is proof you gotta spend money to make money.

TNA not making wise choices is their own fault. but they shouldnt cheap out on the KOs because management fucked up with the money.

that's unfair... the KOs didnt tell them to waste money on a bunch of hasbeens.

Thing is in the end for what they spend on those hasbeens they still make out about even and probably ahead. I mean I know people who went down to florida and told me they went to impact just to see Hulk Hogan and they ain't wrestling fans. To them knockouts won't matter but the idea of seeing legend like Hulk Hogan or Ric Flair is a bigger draw.
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and i know people who arent women's wrestling fans but paid money just to see Trish and Lita..

so you cant ever tell me that women cant be big draws in company. If handled properly they easily can.
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But they ain't gonna get the same amount as a main eventer.

Stonecold,Rock,Undertaker,John Cena,HBK,HHH all majorly were paid more then Trish and Lita. I think giving the roster and MCMG probably make 1,000 or 1,500 and some of them. I think if they paid them more then guys on the roster they would be pissed and walk out of the company and hurt it more then anything knockouts can. I mean if I had to guess whoever doing there numebrs probably got the knockouts being paid what they are for a reason. I mean I would have to look at tna entire rosters books to say well is what they being paid totally unfair. Because if all tna male rosters are making 3,000 then you could say it's wrong.
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when you got a guy being paid $700 just to show up and a KO damn near killing herself in some crazy gimmick match only making $200 for showing up and wrestling...yep i find it to be unfair.
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when you got a guy being paid $700 just to show up and a KO damn near killing herself in some crazy gimmick match only making $200 for showing up and wrestling...yep i find it to be unfair.

Let's not go to far with this Anyone who steps in that ring takes the same risks. All are risking injuries and stuff not just the knockouts. I mean under this idea MCMG should be one of the top paid groups along with Beer Money. I doubt they are both any where near what Scott Hall got. I think Scott Hall is paid for the work he put in the past and built a connection to the fanbase over the year. Scott Hall was in the classic Ladder Match and nWo which allows him to demand more money. MCMG and them put on better matches and are paid less. Now I would never pay any knockouts more then MCMG and Beer Money who been putting on classic match right now. So for me to find justified pay for the knockouts I would need to say what everyone makes.
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i know they all have the same risk but if a guy is making $700 just to show up..walk to the ring, stand around for a promo.

meanwhile a KO is coming out and risking her health in a match but only walks out with $200 measely bucks..yeah i find it to be unfair.

that $200 isnt going to cover a doctor bill in the event something goes wrong in that match and she gets hurt.
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The Sexy Vixen wrote:
i know they all have the same risk but if a guy is making $700 just to show up..walk to the ring, stand around for a promo.

meanwhile a KO is coming out and risking her health in a match but only walks out with $200 measely bucks..yeah i find it to be unfair.

that $200 isnt going to cover a doctor bill in the event something goes wrong in that match and she gets hurt.

I personally think wrestling company should pay for health benfits for there wrestlers and any surgeries they need for male or female. I find it messed up they don't at times. I really want to see the tna books for what all the talent makes per apperance. Because Knockouts pay might be consider good to what tna orginals got but both might look like shit compared to the legends and wwe old wrestlers get.
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After looking at 2008 payroll

I agree Knockouts do need and raise and so do some of the orginals seeing them making less money then Booker T & Frank Triggs and stuff is sad for both sides. I mean they need to pay there younger talent. These Older guys should saved up there money made good investment and take pay cuts to help the industry.
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The KOs dont need to make near main eventer type money but a pay increase would be nice. only Madison and Velvet have had increases thus year and sadly Madisons only went from like $200 a match to $300.
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