10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania
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perceval World Champion
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Subject: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Sat 23 Mar 2013, 1:57 am
At this point, it's not looking like we'll get a Divas Championship match at Wrestlemania. Again. If we get any Diva match at all, it'll probably another thrown together mess like last year.
Ten years ago, we had what is generally considered the best women's match in Wrestlemania history (It's either that or Wrestlemania 22). Wrestlemania 19's Women's Championship match was built towards over a period of six months, and involved every Diva on the Raw roster before it was done.
So, here's a look back on how to build a Diva feud.
Part 1: Three Championship Matches In Nine Days
First, a little background...
The previous Spring, Jazz was the Women's Champion, and feuding with the woman she won the title from, Trish Stratus. To be sure she kept the title, Jazz partnered with Hardcore Champion Steven Richards, who was feuding with Bubba Ray Dudley. Trish won the Hardcore Championship briefly in a melee after a Women's Championship match with Jazz. Trish and Bubba formed a team to challenge Jazz and Richards, ultimately leading to Trish winning the Women's Championship in a Hardcore Rules match in Toronto. After winning the title, Trish put Jazz through a table out of spite, putting her out of action. We haven't seen Jazz, since.
Richards, still Hardcore Champion, promised Jazz would be back in an interview with Terri Runnels, only to be challenged for the Hardcore title by Jacqueline Moore.
The Summer and early Fall saw a feud between Trish and Molly Holly for the Women's Championship, with Molly winning. Molly brought in a protege, Victoria, to assist her in keeping her title. This led to a showdown at Unforgiven.
Backstage, Stacy complained to Bischoff about Trish getting all the exposure as Women's Champion, wanting a match with Trish. She and Bischoff began plotting...
Next: No Mercy, and a couple of Smackdown Divas for good measure
King Silva King of Kings
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Sat 23 Mar 2013, 7:04 am
Yeah it is a shame they can't make good women's matches for WM like WM 19 and WM 22.
WM 21 [and to a lesser extent WM 23] did have a good build up but Christy [and Ashley] sucked so yeah..
WM 24 seemed like it was going to get some build up but Candice got injured again and that derailed it.
It is really a shame that they have yet to have a truly great divas WM match either in terms of build up or match quality since WM 22..
perceval World Champion
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Sat 23 Mar 2013, 1:12 pm
King Silva wrote:
Yeah it is a shame they can't make good women's matches for WM like WM 19 and WM 22.
WM 21 [and to a lesser extent WM 23] did have a good build up but Christy [and Ashley] sucked so yeah..
WM 24 seemed like it was going to get some build up but Candice got injured again and that derailed it.
It is really a shame that they have yet to have a truly great divas WM match either in terms of build up or match quality since WM 22..
It starts with the talent. I don't know where Vince got it in his head (Well, actually, it was Johnny Ace's "vision" for the Divas that derailed things, but Vince could have overruled him at any time) that you could just take a pretty girl, without the physical conditioning, give her a minimum of training, and expect the fans to get as into their matches as much as they did the women signed by Jim Ross and trained by Fit Finlay.
Ashley, for example, had the charisma and desire. No one can question that. Her downfall, in fact, was insisting on doing things she just didn't have the physical conditioning or training to do. Even with the battle royal rules for the Divas designed to protect them by allowing them to be eliminated by going under the ropes or through them, she always insisted on going over the top rope. Gutsy, yes, but it's what got her injured all the time. She just didn't have the conditioning or training to do what she was trying to do.
Maria, meanwhile, was one of the most popular Divas in 2004-06, and one of the most entertaining people on Raw, just being a backstage interviewer. She developed a character, and you knew it was going to be a fun segment whenever she appeared on the screen. Same with Funaki, "Smackdown's #1 Announcer."
In Las Vegas for Raw Roulette, Bschoff manipulates the wheel to make Stacy's match with Trish a bra & panties, paddle on a pole match.
After Trish beat Stacy, in both senses of the word, she was once again attacked by Victoria, being tossed into the steel ring steps. Interviewed backstage, Victoria said she was doing it to show who Trish really was. She said Trish had a past history of hurting people. She knows, she said, because Trish hurt her. Unfortunately, there's no video of this available because it involved Trish spanking an underwear clad Stacy with a paddle, and was thus banned by Right To Censor.
Last edited by perceval on Sun 24 Mar 2013, 12:51 pm; edited 1 time in total
King Silva King of Kings
Number of posts : 32652 Age : 34 Location : Sacramento, California Favorite WWE Wrestler : --- Current and Former:
The Rock, JoMo, Ziggler, Edge, Orton, Y2J, Hardyz, + Rhodes! Favorite WWE Diva : ------- ALL TIME
# 1} Lita
# 2} Trish Stratus
# 3} Mickie James
# 4} Gail Kim
# 5} Michelle McCool
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Sat 23 Mar 2013, 6:49 pm
Loved the back story for Trish/Victoria.
The tag match that night was pretty good.
The brawl was also great.
perceval World Champion
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Sun 24 Mar 2013, 3:30 am
Afterwards, Victoria stormed into the dressing room, screaming at Terri, who was wanting to interview her. Victoria attacked Terri, beat her up, and stripped her.
A little detail I've noticed, here... We've covered two months, and have had eight televised matches for the Women's Championship, already. Talk about a title that was getting a lot of TV time...
Next: Armageddon
King Silva King of Kings
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Mon 25 Mar 2013, 5:40 am
OMG this time period was just so fucking EPIC!
Loved everything involving the divas.
Victoria biting Steven Richards ear at the end was just wow..lol!
perceval World Champion
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Tue 26 Mar 2013, 1:53 am
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# 4} Gail Kim
# 5} Michelle McCool
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Wed 27 Mar 2013, 3:17 am
So many good matches in this time period.
I've been watching them all btw so keep em coming! :p
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Wed 27 Mar 2013, 6:26 am
How to build a divas wm fued today? Throw the champ in a random segment where she gets attacked and have a match with the opponent so they can have a match at rematchmania. John Cena vs Rock Miz vs Wade Kaitlyn vs Kayla Triple H vs Lesnar Fat Dudes v Rhodes & Sandow (possibility as a pre show) Shield v Orton, Sheamus, Big Show (Big show is new, however these teams have faced eachother)
perceval World Champion
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Wed 27 Mar 2013, 11:32 pm
Number of posts : 32652 Age : 34 Location : Sacramento, California Favorite WWE Wrestler : --- Current and Former:
The Rock, JoMo, Ziggler, Edge, Orton, Y2J, Hardyz, + Rhodes! Favorite WWE Diva : ------- ALL TIME
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# 2} Trish Stratus
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# 4} Gail Kim
# 5} Michelle McCool
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Fri 29 Mar 2013, 2:18 am
Such a memorable match and after match BEAT DOWN!
I mean fuck that beat down was epic!
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Fri 29 Mar 2013, 7:49 pm
Number of posts : 32652 Age : 34 Location : Sacramento, California Favorite WWE Wrestler : --- Current and Former:
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# 2} Trish Stratus
# 3} Mickie James
# 4} Gail Kim
# 5} Michelle McCool
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Fri 29 Mar 2013, 9:23 pm
I love my baby girl Jazz! <3
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Fri 29 Mar 2013, 10:02 pm
Baby girl jazz? I LOVED VICTORIA SHE WAS JUST THAT BITCH AND SHE KNEW IT LOVED ME SOME VICTORIA. I wish molly was blonde during this time I really did love might molly she was fun!!!
King Silva King of Kings
Number of posts : 32652 Age : 34 Location : Sacramento, California Favorite WWE Wrestler : --- Current and Former:
The Rock, JoMo, Ziggler, Edge, Orton, Y2J, Hardyz, + Rhodes! Favorite WWE Diva : ------- ALL TIME
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Sat 30 Mar 2013, 2:40 am
Oh I love Victoria as well.
I LOVED the stare down that Victoria and Jazz had in the first video [Victoria beats Molly]. Poor Steven was just trying to calm them down and Victoria just stared right through him and he knew he had to back the fuck off or get the shit beat out of him by Victoria.
I wish Tara was crazy like she was then in TNA now..
perceval World Champion
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Sat 30 Mar 2013, 3:06 pm
Number of posts : 32652 Age : 34 Location : Sacramento, California Favorite WWE Wrestler : --- Current and Former:
The Rock, JoMo, Ziggler, Edge, Orton, Y2J, Hardyz, + Rhodes! Favorite WWE Diva : ------- ALL TIME
# 1} Lita
# 2} Trish Stratus
# 3} Mickie James
# 4} Gail Kim
# 5} Michelle McCool
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Sat 30 Mar 2013, 10:06 pm
LMFAO at King saying Jazz was James Earl Jones' daughter!
Pic of him btw:
perceval World Champion
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Sun 31 Mar 2013, 4:08 pm
Number of posts : 32652 Age : 34 Location : Sacramento, California Favorite WWE Wrestler : --- Current and Former:
The Rock, JoMo, Ziggler, Edge, Orton, Y2J, Hardyz, + Rhodes! Favorite WWE Diva : ------- ALL TIME
# 1} Lita
# 2} Trish Stratus
# 3} Mickie James
# 4} Gail Kim
# 5} Michelle McCool
Favorite TNA Wrestler : ----
Favorite TNA Knockout : --- Registration date : 2009-09-30
Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Mon 01 Apr 2013, 3:12 am
I LOVED Victoria's crazy Gollum like obsession for the title in her promo before her and Stevie's tag match against Trish and Jazz!
perceval World Champion
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Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Mon 01 Apr 2013, 5:11 pm
Number of posts : 32652 Age : 34 Location : Sacramento, California Favorite WWE Wrestler : --- Current and Former:
The Rock, JoMo, Ziggler, Edge, Orton, Y2J, Hardyz, + Rhodes! Favorite WWE Diva : ------- ALL TIME
# 1} Lita
# 2} Trish Stratus
# 3} Mickie James
# 4} Gail Kim
# 5} Michelle McCool
Favorite TNA Wrestler : ----
Favorite TNA Knockout : --- Registration date : 2009-09-30
Subject: Re: 10 Years Ago: How to build a Diva feud for Wrestlemania Mon 01 Apr 2013, 6:32 pm
Great triple threat.
The match is just awesome.
All the ladies got to shine and Trish finally got her title back after a long 5 month chase.
The only bad thing is that she held it for less than a month..
It would have been nice if she had it for at least a couple months before Jazz got it. :-/
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