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Blue Ryder Bossman
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| Subject: Unessecery Women's Title Changes? Sat 20 Jun 2009, 1:42 am | |
| Yeah, basically looking through the history what title changes were not uneeded (unless there was an injury or something) and what should have happened instead? Ill do a few of mine.
Sable >> Debra Ok, understandably they wanted the belt of Sable because she didnt want the title, and Debra was the most over.. but there was a brief Sable/Ivory feud in the works and as Debra dropped to Ivory they should have just cut the middle man and have Sable drop to Ivory, then Ivory turn heel later on.
Ivory >> Fabulous Moolah >> Ivory >> The Kat I understand they wanted the cheap pop on Moolah, which they got.. but she wasnt over at first in fact they boo'ed more. It wasnt until Mae's comedy antics a few months later fans appreciated them (well at first) so Ivory should never have dropped the title.
Then there was The Kat, ok if you look at the division it seemed in a rut, Ivory only really had Luna/Jackie to wrestle, its obvious Tori was not in any fit shape to really wrestle (hence her poor performances) and switching her to valet, but still id have kept the belt on Ivory and have her drop it to Jacqueline, who in turn dropped it to Stephanie. While I didnt agree with Steph as champion it helped build up Lita's win, it would have been a bit anti climatic Lita winning her first title from Ivory or Jackie.
Ivory >> Chyna Chyna should never have been champion, she should have helped Ivory drop the belt to Lita in the spring of 2001 in revenge for the neck injury and Lita getting her big return win, starting a Lita/Chyna vs Ivory/Richards feud, leading to a Lita/Chyna feud when Eddie Guerrero became involved in the summer with Chyna turning heel and rejoining Eddie after Eddie shows "false" affections for Lita to play with her mind, leading to Chyna vs Lita at Summerslam 2001 and a Matt/Lita vs Chyna/Eddie feud, maybe even Chyna beating Lita in the summer only to have an "injury" angle put her out (leaving when her contract runs out) leading to the 6-pac at SVS and the Trish era.
Jazz >> Trish Stratus >> Molly Holly >> Trish Stratus (2002) I liked all the things that went down because of all this, but I think it was only because of Lita & Jazz's injuries, if that never occured then it should have been Jazz still being champion, Molly/Trish beginning a feud based on Backlash's hoo-ha, and Jazz going on to feud with Lita for the title, having tag matches (6 womens with Ivory/Jackie) Interpromotionals with Jazz beating Torrie & Nidia on SD, and a 4 way at one of the PPVs all with Jazz retaining, then having Trish regain the title at Summerslam 2002, with Trish going on to feud with Victoria in the fall. (I guess that leaves Lita/Jazz doing nothing, but in reality they were injured so they could carry on thier feud or switch it up)
Trish Stratus >> Jazz >> Gail Kim >> Molly Holly I never understood the Trish to Jazz loss just a month after her big win, but I guess it was best with Trish chasing, this short Jazz reign was a bit of a waste as she got injured, so I would have just had Trish loose to Molly (to make up for cutting Mollys 2002 reign out above) after building Molly up as a heel, then have Gail debut as an ally to Trish only to turn heel along the way and do the feud as it was.
Molly Holly >> Victoria Probably one of the most annoying switches EVER! Molly was really getting over as a dominant heel, and Victoria was slowly turning face and it was all rushed for a regular RAW, how stupid is that? Wrestlemania should have been Lita/Jazz/Molly/Victoria in a 4 way and build up Victorias face turn on the way, Molly retains, the next RAW Victoria beats Molly via DQ and Molly cuts Victorias hair leading to Hair vs Hair Title Match at Backlash which Victoria wins.
Victoria >> Trish Stratus Trish vs Lita didnt need the title, Victoria should have siply kept it to feud with Gail & Molly.
Lita >> Trish (NYR) Injury involved but if it never happened Lita should have retained and faced Trish at WM in a Gimmick Match
Melina >> Mickie (House Show) Just ridiculous, just overule the decision! | |
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| Subject: Re: Unessecery Women's Title Changes? Sat 20 Jun 2009, 1:45 am | |
| the Melina and Mickie was not planned | |
| | | KTV-Time WD Stalker
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| Subject: Re: Unessecery Women's Title Changes? Sat 20 Jun 2009, 11:50 am | |
| - The Blue Man wrote:
Trish Stratus >> Jazz >> Gail Kim >> Molly Holly I never understood the Trish to Jazz loss just a month after her big win, but I guess it was best with Trish chasing, this short Jazz reign was a bit of a waste as she got injured, so I would have just had Trish loose to Molly (to make up for cutting Mollys 2002 reign out above) after building Molly up as a heel, then have Gail debut as an ally to Trish only to turn heel along the way and do the feud as it was. I seriously guessed you wasn't paying attention huh? Things were set for a big feud with Jazz-Trish....but Jazz got injured, so they toss the belt on Gail Kim...who fucked up in her first few matches so WWE tossed her aside for the next best heel to fued with Trish, which was Molly. You can't avoid Fuck ups and njury's, they happen, they happen, deal with it and make a change. You think they know Jazz was going to get injured? No, you think they knew Gail Kim was going to fuck up her first 3/4 weeks? NO....so your whole statement makes no sense, it may seem pointless to us, but looking at the situation, they had no other choice. - The Blue Man wrote:
Molly Holly >> Victoria Probably one of the most annoying switches EVER! Molly was really getting over as a dominant heel, and Victoria was slowly turning face and it was all rushed for a regular RAW, how stupid is that? Wrestlemania should have been Lita/Jazz/Molly/Victoria in a 4 way and build up Victorias face turn on the way, Molly retains, the next RAW Victoria beats Molly via DQ and Molly cuts Victorias hair leading to Hair vs Hair Title Match at Backlash which Victoria wins. Your fetish to draw out fueds with lame and poor direction is crazy. This was perfect, how wasn't molly already over as a dominant heel? Didn't she freaking hold the title for almost 11 months? She was WAY WAY over as a dominant heel, because she basicly defended it against everyone and anynone on the roster. Mania was the best and most perfect time for her to drop it, since she was confident, cocky...and on the biggest stage of them all she lost. Which was the biggest upset and pay off. Get your facts right....nothing was wrong with this title change.....absolutly nothing. - The Blue Man wrote:
Lita >> Trish (NYR) Injury involved but if it never happened Lita should have retained and faced Trish at WM in a Gimmick Match
Um yeah and the 3 months between that, everyone should do like they do now....and absolutly ingore the fact that a championship existed?? What a great idea....because let's see, Lita didn't return until 2 months after her injury, then...she didn't wrestle until 2 years after the injury. So yur basicly telling me, they should have kept the gold on Lita for two years so they could finally have a match??? WOW your smart - The Blue Man wrote:
Melina >> Mickie (House Show) Just ridiculous, just overule the decision!
Was a mistake.....i blame WWE for actually recognising it. | |
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| Subject: Re: Unessecery Women's Title Changes? Sat 20 Jun 2009, 1:33 pm | |
| I liked Chyna winning the belt, thank you. | |
| | | janine Melina's Barracudas
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| Subject: Re: Unessecery Women's Title Changes? Sat 20 Jun 2009, 3:35 pm | |
| Hmmm I will have to say: Melina to Mickie in Paris, that was just pointless imo. | |
| | | Blue Ryder Bossman
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| Subject: Re: Unessecery Women's Title Changes? Sun 21 Jun 2009, 4:13 am | |
| Yea I agree, WWE should take that fiasco out of the record books. Melina should be a 2x champ and Mickie should be 3x champion | |
| | | The LL Father THEE LaylaLover
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| Subject: Re: Unessecery Women's Title Changes? Mon 29 Jun 2009, 11:14 am | |
| the mickie melina one, shouldnt have been counted by wwe....it has fucked up mickies chances of holding the belt again as within 3 years roughly shes become a 4 times womens champ...and im sure they dont want her overtaking trish and also did u forget the kat harvina one.....or was that in the whole ivory> kat one and KSW u seriously need to stop flaming people and basically calling them ignorant, blue had his opinion | |
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| Subject: Re: Unessecery Women's Title Changes? Mon 29 Jun 2009, 2:28 pm | |
| Mccool winning last night should not have happen | |
| | | The Sexy Vixen Billion Dolla Princess
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| Subject: Re: Unessecery Women's Title Changes? Mon 29 Jun 2009, 3:52 pm | |
| Last night's title change was messed up on Melina's side. She should've gotten the upperhand Friday before the PPV....then i would've been ok with McCool winning.
They made Melina look really weak. | |
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| Subject: Re: Unessecery Women's Title Changes? Mon 29 Jun 2009, 4:17 pm | |
| they should of waited till NOC when both diva and women title be on line | |
| | | The Sexy Vixen Billion Dolla Princess
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| Subject: Re: Unessecery Women's Title Changes? Mon 29 Jun 2009, 4:27 pm | |
| Mickie's match would have to have been first for her to make history.
WWE is just silly at times.
but hey, my girl Maryse is still champ so yay! | |
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