SMACKDOWN VS RAW BATTLE! (Bracket 5)

Eve Torres or Alicia Fox? Both are extremely impressive rookies. Hell they might surpass both Kelly And Layla if they keep it up, if they haven't already shocked

Who is the most impressive rookie?

If Eve wasn't doing backflips and moonsaults, people wouldn't be talking about her matches.

Alicia for me.

Eve for me, she just excites me more, plus she has built a better presence, that isnt totally to do with backflips. she had a decent month long feud with layla, that had some ok matches in *excluding the first which was pathetic* in all honesty i have forogtten about that moonsault as it kinda blew for me.
Alicia is brill and has a good shot at some gold over girls like katie, jillian and layla....but her overhype on boards just annoy me (cough blue)

oh and ps eve and alicia have surpassed kelly...layla im not that sure, as they have different styles eve is like kelly she doesnt the gymnastic flippy stuff, but also works around the body like layla, alicia is also a bit of a flipper....

Oh my god this is a terrible pairing. Both are awful, but if I was absolutely forced to choose I'd vote Alicia.

LMAO! ^^^

I vote Alicia Fox, aren't you guys amazed at how well she keeps up with Gail Kim? Gail Kim is quick as fuck and to see someone like Alicia literally keep up with her is nothing short of awesome. Her bumping is sick too, this girl has it all.

Eve? Started off really slow but has slowly won me over, I see Lita in her. WWE have something special with both of these girls.

Alicia does not have it all. She bumps and she's fast, how is that "having it all"? That's not having it all my friend..

I'ma go with the sexy Eve`

Erm ok

She can wrestle better than

Rosa/Kelly/Maryse/Layla/The Bella's/Maria and Eve

She can bump better than them

She carries her own weight unlike them

She has a great look (my opinion)

She can speak on the mic (Watch when Michelle won the title, her backstage segment was lulz)

That's having it all compared to other models, my opinion.

Of course it's your opinion, but that's not really having it all. To truly have it all you need decent ring skill and to be over.

She has neither.

And Maryse may be limited but I'm sure Alicia can't wrestle better than her.

BTW, you have been banned from using the term "lulz". It wasn't "lulz'.

The Blue Man wrote:

Erm ok

She can wrestle better than

Rosa/Kelly/Maryse/Layla/The Bella's/Maria and Eve

She can bump better than them

She carries her own weight unlike them

She has a great look (my opinion)

She can speak on the mic (Watch when Michelle won the title, her backstage segment was lulz)

That's having it all compared to other models, my opinion.

firstly- u cant say she is a better wrestler when some girls have different styles of wrestling

secondly- i think her and Layla are par on bumping with Eve a bit behind

thirdly- Layla can carry her own wait, as can Eve and Maryse

fourthly- they all have great looks, excepts Eves chin and Kellys teeth

fifthly- Layla and Maryse can do that too

sixthly- thats my opinion on yours

LL "THE GREAT" wrote:

The Blue Man wrote:

Erm ok

She can wrestle better than

Rosa/Kelly/Maryse/Layla/The Bella's/Maria and Eve

She can bump better than them

She carries her own weight unlike them

She has a great look (my opinion)

She can speak on the mic (Watch when Michelle won the title, her backstage segment was lulz)

That's having it all compared to other models, my opinion.

firstly- u cant say she is a better wrestler when some girls have different styles of wrestling

Different styles of wrestling matter none. If she can wrestle better than them, which she can, I'm just a little tentative to say she's better than Maryse.

hmm yeah i was a bit unsure on whether what i said mattered lol
but i said it anyways

LL "THE GREAT" wrote:

The Blue Man wrote:

Erm ok

She can wrestle better than

Rosa/Kelly/Maryse/Layla/The Bella's/Maria and Eve

She can bump better than them

She carries her own weight unlike them

She has a great look (my opinion)

She can speak on the mic (Watch when Michelle won the title, her backstage segment was lulz)

That's having it all compared to other models, my opinion.

firstly- u cant say she is a better wrestler when some girls have different styles of wrestling

secondly- i think her and Layla are par on bumping with Eve a bit behind

thirdly- Layla can carry her own wait, as can Eve and Maryse

fourthly- they all have great looks, excepts Eves chin and Kellys teeth

fifthly- Layla and Maryse can do that too

sixthly- thats my opinion on yours

1 - Damn, great point
2 - lol. Layla has been falling awkwardly on her ass since she got into the company. Alicia takes a dropkick and all the sudden she can go through walls or something.
3. I can see that point.
4. Again. Yeah.
5. Wait.. She gets one promo that was backstage and could've been taped and all the sudden she has mic skills?

Erm, I didn't say what you said didn't matter, I said that the different styles of wrestling matter none when it comes to who can wrestle better.

I think that's a little iffy to say that actually. Some people can't handle different styles. Doesn't make them any better or worst. However, most, if not all the divas besides Melina wanting to show her vagina every five seconds, try to emulate the same fake Mexican style. haha

sarcy wrote:

LL "THE GREAT" wrote:

The Blue Man wrote:

Erm ok

She can wrestle better than

Rosa/Kelly/Maryse/Layla/The Bella's/Maria and Eve

She can bump better than them

She carries her own weight unlike them

She has a great look (my opinion)

She can speak on the mic (Watch when Michelle won the title, her backstage segment was lulz)

That's having it all compared to other models, my opinion.

firstly- u cant say she is a better wrestler when some girls have different styles of wrestling

secondly- i think her and Layla are par on bumping with Eve a bit behind

thirdly- Layla can carry her own wait, as can Eve and Maryse

fourthly- they all have great looks, excepts Eves chin and Kellys teeth

fifthly- Layla and Maryse can do that too

sixthly- thats my opinion on yours

1 - Damn, great point
2 - lol. Layla has been falling awkwardly on her ass since she got into the company. Alicia takes a dropkick and all the sudden she can go through walls or something.
3. I can see that point.
4. Again. Yeah.
5. Wait.. She gets one promo that was backstage and could've been taped and all the sudden she has mic skills?

lol im a bit confused as to who u are refering to with 5 Layla, Maryse or Alicia

and tbh i have never seen Alicia have a segement of her own, being in some victory celebration isnt mic skills. Layla has had quite a bit of mic time or backstage talking segments compared to a lot of divas, such as on ECW with her Kelly feud and on SD with her Eve feud. and Maryse gets a lot of backstage talking....so both are imo better talkers then Alicia....and i actually like Maryse butchering the language...it makes her cuteer

Glitch wrote:

Erm, I didn't say what you said didn't matter, I said that the different styles of wrestling matter none when it comes to who can wrestle better.

lol i wasnt suggesting u did
i was just saying i didnt know whether what i said mattered...i just couldnt be bothered to edit it

sarcy wrote:

I think that's a little iffy to say that actually. Some people can't handle different styles. Doesn't make them any better or worst. However, most, if not all the divas besides Melina wanting to show her vagina every five seconds, try to emulate the same fake Mexican style. haha

The different styles don't matter because it all depends if you are actually good at wrestling in that style.

I was talking about Alicia.

That's the thing about mic skills.. I think you naturally have to have them. Being nervous is one thing, but a lot of the chicks are in that "shut the fuck up" zone.

LL "THE GREAT" wrote:

The Blue Man wrote:

Erm ok

She can wrestle better than

Rosa/Kelly/Maryse/Layla/The Bella's/Maria and Eve

She can bump better than them

She carries her own weight unlike them

She has a great look (my opinion)

She can speak on the mic (Watch when Michelle won the title, her backstage segment was lulz)

That's having it all compared to other models, my opinion.

firstly- u cant say she is a better wrestler when some girls have different styles of wrestling

secondly- i think her and Layla are par on bumping with Eve a bit behind

thirdly- Layla can carry her own wait, as can Eve and Maryse

fourthly- they all have great looks, excepts Eves chin and Kellys teeth

fifthly- Layla and Maryse can do that too

sixthly- thats my opinion on yours

Different styles or not, Alicia owns them all in the ring. She can get technical if need be, im sure she can bust out some high-flying shit and she can brawl if given the chance. But for now she mostly plays bump machine but once we get that Gail Kim/Alicia Fox match you'll see what I see.

Sorry, I love Layla but bumping is her weakest point. She improved but no way is she "on par" with Alicia. Eve Torres isn't either.

Layla can carry her own weight eh? With girls like Kelly and Eve she could. Tell me you didn't see her struggling against Melina in that tag match? She didn't botch or anything but Lay was struggling to keep up. It was so obvious. Eve plays it safe as well. Maryse definitely cannot carry her own weight. Mickie James kept that PPV match from falling apart, it was apparent. Maryse was close to fucking up imo. But now I realize that she was injured... Alicia can carry her weight, You can see that Gail Kim does not guide her through the matches. She is there neck and neck with Gail for everything. Once she gets hit with a headscissors she gets right up and takes the next move with ease. No struggles at all.

I didn't say none of them had bad looks, I was just saying that A fox has good looks..

I never said Layla or Maryse can't speak on the mic... Both can speak on the mic but can Layla bump like Alicia? Can Maryse wrestle like Alicia? That's my point, Alicia has it all while the others are lacking on something.

That's my opinion on your opinion

And Joey, she's not over but she was moved to Raw because she was overshadowing Michelle McCool and she got a small reaction at The Bash while Michelle failed to get anything.

[quote="The Blue Man"][quote="LL "THE GREAT""]

The Blue Man wrote:

Sorry, I love Layla but bumping is her weakest point. .

the fuck are u on about
u high?
you praised the holy hell outta her with her bumping
you have just moved on from marking layla to OVERMARKING alicia to the point of nauciating

Laylas weakest point as a performer is by no means her bumping, its her overness with crowds and her actual wrestling ability

Dude, I remember saying Layla improved with her bumping but watching her tag match against Melina, I realized she still needs help with bumping and timing.

timing and being a step quicker is what she needs to work on
her bumping was fine
the main problem in that match is she couldnt execute the only actualy move she used that backbreaker thing....she is a small woman carrying someone who is more then her own weight on her shoulder.
as kevin pointed out Layla isnt an athelte shes a dancer, so strength isnt her strong point loll.. what she needs to learn from that match is to hit the gym and work on her upper body strngth

I don't really like either, But Eve is just doing highspots to look impressive, so Alicia gets the vote because She isnt trying to fool anyone.

Eve, shes won me over. I think shes improving a little more then Alicia but Alicia is doing a good job as well. I think Eve excites me more.

surely thats what they are booking her to do though
as a way of getting her over...lord knows the fans love it when someone does a top rope move?

That's precisely why she's over. Same with Jeff Hardy.

I don't like people who do one or two high spots in a match and get over when they don't deserve it.

hmm yeah i dont like that either
i hate jeff hardy for getting over on highspots
but one high spot isnt enough for me to dislike her really. i only picked her over alicia has she has improved drastically for an eye candy standard...and isnt overhyped like alicia is from blue

and on a side not. at least eve has mic skills

You cannot compare these two tbh. Alicia's experience flat out overshadows Eve. It shows in her work. Alicia Fox has had the advantages of working with Beth Phoenix, ODB, Serena, Katie Lea, Melody...manye women who have experience outside of the WWE. She obviously learned loads from them.

Alicia Fox is by far the better worker when compared to her fellow model peers. Alicia has yet to disapoint, she never looks lost in the ring, she's fast, her bumping is scrips and clean, her little offensive she has is good. Plus she can speak and act well. Even as a valet, she shows she knows what she's doing.

I feel it's a real shame we never got to see the FCW matches between Nattie & Alicia.

Like i've stated before, Alicia has been in the business as long as Kelly, Maryse, Layla & Rosa. She is WAY to experienced to be compared with Eve. She has even more experience then Kelly & Layla. Eve is amazing and is improving in a great pace. I even kind of feel of not voting because tbh it really isn't fair.

But i voted Alicia Fox. But i'd rather you compare Alicia & Layla and Kelly & Eve just to make it easier on me.

Also i won't say Alicia is better then Maryse but Alicia's knowlidge and grasp of the business is a tad bit more then Maryse tbh. Both divas are equaly talented but Alicia understands the bizz a bit more then Maryse.