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Submission wrestling has been a bit of a lost art in recent years, but the WWE has come up this weekend with a Submission Only [color:901e=blue! important][color:901e=blue! important]Pay [color:901e=blue! important]per [color:901e=blue! important]View THE TOP 5 SUBMISSION FINISHERS Grey_loader

. With this in mind, I asked the writers of 411 to give me their top 5 Submission Finishers. Because as cool as a Figure Four on the ring post is, it isn't exactly a finisher and would never end one of the matches this weekend. (This excludes the Submissions Count Anywhere and the I Quit Match.) There is a lot of history and narrowing to a Top 5 is quite tricky.

So what did our group of writers select? Let's find out…



Shawn S. Lealos

HONORABLE MENTIONS

Chris Jericho's Armbar - There is not a move more respected than ARMBAR!

Chikara Special - I have only seen this move on YouTube but read a lot about its inception and usage and it sounds like a pretty cool move, so it gets a spot here.

Chris Jericho's Walls of Jericho - Just because I like it... almost as much as ARMBAR!!!!!

5.Ric Flair: Figure Four - The move is not that devastating anymore so I am dropping it to #5 but the move defined the career of Ric Flair. He even used it as a finisher in recent years despite the fact that it didn't work for anyone else in wrestling. However, the move was used for many years in Flair's numerous title reigns and has to be respected here.

4.The Cobra Clutch/Million Dollar Dream - Whether it was Sgt. Slaughter or Ted DiBiase, this move was a variation of the sleeper but looked much more painful. The wrestler stands behind the opponent and uses one arm to place him in a half nelson and uses his free arm to take the same arm that the half nelson is applied to and pull it across the opponent's neck to cut off the carotid artery, causing either a submission or loss of consciousness. I give it credit for the advent of many other chokes including the numerous versions of the rear naked choke hold.

3.Bryan Danielson: Cattle Mutilation - I've always been a fan of moves that look practically impossible to get out of. Bryan Danielson's Cattle Mutilation is one of those moves. The move is technically a bridging grounded double chickenwing and is applied when the opponent is seated or lying face down on the mat and Danielson locks in a double chickenwing on their arms and then performs a forward roll into a bridging position further stressing the hold.


2.Sharpshooter/Scorpion Deathlock - Bret Hart used the move to beat every comer during his [color:901e=blue! important][color:901e=blue! important]WWF title reigns and Sting ended up using it to become the greatest face in WCW. In both instances, the best wrestlers in the two federations made the move the greatest submission hold of the nineties. Hart said in his autobiography that [color:901e=blue! important][color:901e=blue! important]Konnan taught him how to apply the move and Hart used various methods of applying it himself. It is the move that was the catalyst for the Montreal Screwjob. Since then it has been used by people such as Edge, The Rock and Natalya Neidhart. It's use is also a great way to make Canadian fans hate you.

1.Ankle Lock - The move is thanks in large part to the MMA but whether it was Ken Shamrock applying it or Kurt Angle carrying on the tradition, it is a devastating move that threatens to snap the ankle of the opponent if they don't give up. There are ways to roll out of it but if the wrestler wears down his opponent enough, it is obvious he won't have the strength to continue to fight it. The fact it is used in the real sport of MMA gives it even more credibility.


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Cobra Clutch - I've always had a soft spot for this hold, but that might have something to do with being a big fan of Ted DiBiase, who called it the Million Dollar Dream.

Ankle Lock - Great hold, but man, has Kurt devalued this as a finisher or what? You didn't see Bret apply Sharpshooters four-five times in a match.

Gory Special - As contrived a hold as you'll see on my list, but still, I love putting this hold on my cousins at family get-togethers, so I had to include it.

5.Texas Cloverleaf - The Texas Cloverleaf is awesome. It's a Sharpshooter than actually works! Most famously used by Dean Malenko, and used by about thirty others since he retired, the hold is a mixture of a Boston Crab and a figure four leglock. Honestly, if you aren't right next to the ropes, this hold should finish you. It's that awesome.

4.Walls of Jericho - I'm talking the [color:b382=blue! important][color:b382=blue! important]OLD [color:b382=blue! important]SCHOOL Walls, not the Boston Crab Jericho uses now. There's nothing wrong with the crab: if you've ever put it on or been put in one, you know that it could FUBAR your spine. But the Walls is a Boston Crab with extra crank, and it looks SICK. Shame this one fell out of favor, because I love it.

3.Figure-Four Leglock - The classic submission finisher. While I personally prefer the Complete Indian Deathlock (Triple H's version) because it's harder to escape, the figure-four is iconic. While it's changed from "certain match-ender" to "anyone can turn it over" in the last 60 or so years, it's a great hold. It is perma-over and will always be able to create drama. The Figure Four is as ingrained in wrestling as steel chairs and sleeper holds, and I don't think it will go anywhere anytime soon.

2.Crippler Crossface - BLAH BLAH BLAH HE MURDERED HIS WIFE AND CHILD BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU BASTERD BLAH BLAH BLAH DISGUSTING BLAH BLAH BLAH! I think I speak for the majority of the IWC here: I'm sick of the Benoit argument. Whatever your views are, they are probably set in stone and nobody in the "respect Benoit's accomplishments" or the "look at the whole picture" camps are trying to convince you otherwise. If you can't handle seeing Crippler without an asterisk, life's tough, get a helmet. Now, as for the hold itself, when applied properly, the hold works over the neck, shoulders, and arm of the opponent. It's a highly aesthetic hold because it can be applied in two seconds and allows you to see the faces both the guy using the hold and the guy trapped in the hold, creating genuine emotion.

1.Sharpshooter - Let's get this out of the way: the hold sucks. It's a Boston Crab that doesn't allow you to lean as far back and keep the hold on, which means you can't hurt the back as much as you could in a Crab. Second, two legs can easily overpower one arm and thus the hold is easily broken. Not to mention that it's almost impossible to apply. But this is [color:b382=blue! important][color:b382=blue! important]pro [color:b382=blue! important]wrestling, and holds don't have to work in real life. The Sharpshooter is the submission hold of choice for Bret Hart and Sting, two of the all time greats. It is synonymous with the Hart family and Canada: Owen Hart and Natalya used this hold, as did dungeon graduate Chris Benoit. Despite not being Hart-trained, [color:b382=blue! important][color:b382=blue! important]Trish [color:b382=blue! important]Stratus used the hold in her last singles match to one of the loudest pops ever. Edge has been using the hold as of late as well. Let's not forget The Rock, who used the hold first as a reference to the most famous moment in submission history (more on that in a second), used it later as a tribute to Owen, and used it throughout the rest of his career as his pet submission hold. Austin's career moment came at the hands of this hold, as he passed out from the pain, his head resting in a pool of his own blood. And less we forget, the Sharpshooter is a central part of wrestling's greatest in-ring controversy: The Montreal Screwjob. Because of the multitude of famous users and the great moments associated with it, the Sharpshooter gets my #1 pick.
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 5 SUBMISSION FINISHERS   THE TOP 5 SUBMISSION FINISHERS EmptyWed 09 Sep 2009, 2:42 am

My 5 Favorites

5 Crossface

4 Scorpion Deathlock/Sharpshooter

3 Figure 4 LegLock

2 Texas Cloverleaf

1 Anklelock
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1. Tilt–a–whirl headscissors armbar (Gail Kim's Christo)
2. Sharpshooter
3. Angle Lock
4. Crossface
5. Texas Cloverleaf
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PostSubject: Re: THE TOP 5 SUBMISSION FINISHERS   THE TOP 5 SUBMISSION FINISHERS EmptyWed 09 Sep 2009, 9:08 am

Even tho Im not a hugh Chris Jericho... I love to see him get someone in the Walls of Jericho.
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