Amazing Red: Gaining Gold and More?

On Oct. 8th, on an episode of TNA Impact, Amazing Red has defeated Samoa Joe to become the new TNA X-Division Champion. Since his return, it didn't seem like he was going to get this far, especially before this, he was mainly bouncing around from one thing to another. But after looking good and putting on great performances in both the #1 contenders ladder match the week before and beating Joe the week after for the title (with help from Bobby Lashey), he not only gain some gold, it looks like he's one of the next wrestlers in line to be groomed and pushed to become a future mega-star in TNA. What are your thoughts on this?

Discussion Points
*What are your thoughts and feelings on Red winning the title?
*Now that he's champion, what are you expecting out of his (second) reign?
*After his amazing performances, do you think TNA's planning on pushing him to become future star?
*Do you believe he could become a future main eventer in TNA?
*What storylines/feuds do you wish to see him take part of, not only as champ, but also as he's getting pushed.

Lets discuss!

When did you discussion posts get so neatly done? Was I PMS'ing at the time? <_<

Blue Campbell wrote:

Discussion Points
*What are your thoughts and feelings on Red winning the title?
*Now that he's champion, what are you expecting out of his (second) reign?
*After his amazing performances, do you think TNA's planning on pushing him to become future star?
*Do you believe he could become a future main eventer in TNA?
*What storylines/feuds do you wish to see him take part of, not only as champ, but also as he's getting pushed.

Lets discuss!

- That belt doesn't mean anything anyway.
- Annoying Don West promos and forgettable matches.
- No. When AJ, the guy who gets billed as "one of the fathers of the X-Division Style", goes on record to say that flippy flip shit style without any psychology, selling or character doesn't make money.. That says a lot. Red isn't past that flippy flip shit style without any psychology, selling or character.
- No. Besides the whole Glass Ceiling Thy Name is Angle, what about Red seperates him from the other midgets he wrestles?
- I want him to drop the belt to Creed. Creed is a goofy ass wrestler. But when the belt doesn't mean much to begin with, why not have fun with it.

Right, the belt meant so muchwhen a fatass had the belt. Now that a legit X Division guy has it the belt doesn't matter. Gotta love that logic.

The belt stopped meaning a damn 3 years ago. I don't get why you are so obsessed with that indy style that just doesn't draw money.

sarcy wrote:

what about Red seperates him from the other midgets he wrestles?

Because he is sooooo adorably cute and fun to watch.

The Answer is no

TNA had their shot with him if they had huge plans they would of gave him a push when he was orginally there. Too many injuries and injury prone. I enjoy watch him wrestle personally but he ain't gonna be on the next big thing I wouldn't be shocked if he dropped the title tonight to Daniels.

KiwiKevin wrote:

sarcy wrote:

what about Red seperates him from the other midgets he wrestles?

Because he is sooooo adorably cute and fun to watch.

Those kids at the Raw shows say that about Hornswoggle.. And he actually makes his company money. Where is his praise at? Oh, that's right. He isn't doing that flippy flip shit style and he has a character. Sucks to be him.

sarcy wrote:

The belt stopped meaning a damn 3 years ago. I don't get why you are so obsessed with that indy style that just doesn't draw money.

and i dont get why you're obsessed with bashing good wrestling. not everyone can be as boring as Layla, sorry

sarcy wrote:

KiwiKevin wrote:

sarcy wrote:

what about Red seperates him from the other midgets he wrestles?

Because he is sooooo adorably cute and fun to watch.

Those kids at the Raw shows say that about Hornswoggle.. And he actually makes his company money. Where is his praise at? Oh, that's right. He isn't doing that flippy flip shit style and he has a character. Sucks to be him.

Diffrence between me and those kids, i want to screw Amazing red and i hope the kids don't think the same way of hornswoggle..that's be disturbing.

I'm like one of those mindless teenage girls or menapausel women who cheer for Cena.....thing is i do so for Red.

But tbh he can do without Don West though....that fuck tard is annoying

Chessman wrote:

sarcy wrote:

The belt stopped meaning a damn 3 years ago. I don't get why you are so obsessed with that indy style that just doesn't draw money.

and i dont get why you're obsessed with bashing good wrestling. not everyone can be as boring as Layla, sorry

Daniels just landed on his FUCKING head.

sarcy wrote:

When did you discussion posts get so neatly done? Was I PMS'ing at the time? <_<

I have my resources

Chessman wrote:

sarcy wrote:

The belt stopped meaning a damn 3 years ago. I don't get why you are so obsessed with that indy style that just doesn't draw money.

and i dont get why you're obsessed with bashing good wrestling. not everyone can be as boring as Layla, sorry

Must you bring Layla into everything to prove a point If we'd bring in Taker or one your faves you'd have a fit

i just get tired of ppl complaining over good wrestling when they mark out for shitty wrestling

Chessman wrote:

i just get tired of ppl complaining over good wrestling when they mark out for shitty wrestling

I think myself, LL, and Sarcy (The Layla marks) know that Layla is a shitty wrestler , we like her still. Are we not allowed to?

no, just stop shitting on good wrestling when it happens. it doesnt matter if its the "indy style"...if its good...why bash on it? whens the last time you saw more then 3 matches of quality wrestling?

And anyway, there is no point bringing Taker into this when noone can diss his wrestling abilities.

Chessman wrote:

no, just stop shitting on good wrestling when it happens. it doesnt matter if its the "indy style"...if its good...why bash on it? whens the last time you saw more then 3 matches of quality wrestling?

People are entitled to bash any kind of wrestling they want, we all are aware that the indies is good but some folks just dont care for it, its not really a crime either. I hardly keep up with it myself. Its all about WWE and TNA for me because they are more mainstream. I will watch the occasional ROH match here and there, if I have time for it.

I like Amazing Red. He's exciting to watch. I hope he gets a few title reigns under his belt.

Blue hit it the nail on the head. just cos we like a shitty wrestler doesnt mean we HAVE to praise all good wrestling.
Ive never watching nor do i intend to watch indy wrestling. And i dont HAVE to care for dudes that can do loads of flips and jump 50 feet in the air, just so i have permission to also like Layla without you whining over it

Some people like watching submissionists...Others like watching powerhouses...Others like watching brawls and hardcore rules, and others like watching high flyers. Everyone is different, but it doesn't limit their ability as wrestlers. A good powerhouse wrestler cannot be compared to a good highflying wrestler, because they are two different styles.

We can say a versitile superstar like the Undertaker or Shawn Michaels are great wrestlers because they are versitile in everything, whereas many are limited to one style (Rey, Khali).

Red is really underrated. I hope he gets the push he deserves.
I think his gimmick (or lack thereof) is the culprit. He's pretty bland outside the ring, and his look is a little stale. I doubt Don West can help either. Its too bad cause man this guy is all kindsa great

*What are your thoughts and feelings on Red winning the title? Happy he is getting pushed.
*Now that he's champion, what are you expecting out of his (second) reign? I hope that he has a long reign so that he has enough comitment to go get it back when he loses it.
*After his amazing performances, do you think TNA's planning on pushing him to become future star? I hope so.
*Do you believe he could become a future main eventer in TNA? I really believe he could, in a long time though.
*What storylines/feuds do you wish to see him take part of, not only as champ, but also as he's getting pushed. AJ Styles vs Amazing Red

Blue Campbell wrote:

Chessman wrote:

no, just stop shitting on good wrestling when it happens. it doesnt matter if its the "indy style"...if its good...why bash on it? whens the last time you saw more then 3 matches of quality wrestling?

People are entitled to bash any kind of wrestling they want, we all are aware that the indies is good but some folks just dont care for it, its not really a crime either. I hardly keep up with it myself. Its all about WWE and TNA for me because they are more mainstream. I will watch the occasional ROH match here and there, if I have time for it.

Your right not all people got to like the same wrestling but the comments coming off as stupid watch you people say well because he jumps and does flips it's indy style. Every damn wrestler in the world starts out on the indy scene and shit. So if you don't like indy style then you like No wrestlers at all. In all honesty she would of been better off saying she dislikes cruiserweights and luchas who move fast then saying I hate Indy Style because this ain't about Indys last I checked Amazing Red works for TNA. You just said TNA is main stream so how is he Indy?

This topic could of been worded a lot better and it's stupid to say you don't like indy style when that's where all the wrestlers come from. They all got to work their way up through Indys and shit to get into the wwe mainly.

CP Munk wrote:

Blue Campbell wrote:

Chessman wrote:

no, just stop shitting on good wrestling when it happens. it doesnt matter if its the "indy style"...if its good...why bash on it? whens the last time you saw more then 3 matches of quality wrestling?

People are entitled to bash any kind of wrestling they want, we all are aware that the indies is good but some folks just dont care for it, its not really a crime either. I hardly keep up with it myself. Its all about WWE and TNA for me because they are more mainstream. I will watch the occasional ROH match here and there, if I have time for it.

Your right not all people got to like the same wrestling but the comments coming off as stupid watch you people say well because he jumps and does flips it's indy style. Every damn wrestler in the world starts out on the indy scene and shit. So if you don't like indy style then you like No wrestlers at all. In all honesty she would of been better off saying she dislikes cruiserweights and luchas who move fast then saying I hate Indy Style because this ain't about Indys last I checked Amazing Red works for TNA. You just said TNA is main stream so how is he Indy?

This topic could of been worded a lot better and it's stupid to say you don't like indy style when that's where all the wrestlers come from. They all got to work their way up through Indys and shit to get into the wwe mainly.

lol you make a lot of sense there. I am not that one sided, although i said that i wouldnt watch nor care to watch indies, that is by pure choice, as i cant be bothered looking through on the internet to watch a bunch of ppl ive hardly heard of. But i was wise to make sure that i never claimed i hate indy style, i dont hate any of the wrestlers, i dislike the guys like Red and Bourne as mentioned, not as persons or as athletes, as i respect the hell out of them for all their athletasicm.
I will take CPs adivce, and just for my own personal case to make sure ppl understand.

I dislike the HighFlying, Lucha style, not HATE, just DISLIKE. And i certainly dont HATE the indy style, i just dont care to pay attention to it