John Cena Official Discussion thread

He put people over until he reformed DX with HHH; dont get it confused. He became HHH's punk b*****, using his family as an excuse for putting down talent

As DX I cant stand HBK lol but thy did put Legacy over, shocking might I add

Since rejoining as DX, they have put over Legacy and they are the sole reason Legacy is so over these days. Chris Jericho and Big Show have also done it all, so how are they burying them exactly?

i thought that was a waste, and DX propably knew that...now where is Legacy?They knew what they were doing, and they knew Legacy wasnt going to go nowhere hence why they gave them a win

Because its a topic on John Cena.

I LOVE CENA!!!

I love seeing Cena not in the main event

It's better than seeing Sheamus in the main event

Jordan Harvey Version 1.0 wrote:

I didnt forget about that fucker, but Venom said Michaels specifically so that's who I was talking about. I despise both men equally. They are cancers

You don't like them because they were born in July?

Im a cancer too...

TheGreatMintz wrote:

It's better than seeing Sheamus in the main event

I'll take somebody new over the idiot anyday.

And Keri, really? NO!!! They are PARASITES, or are blood-sucking ticks some type of astronomical sign too?

no no, DX are innocent and they always let ppl in the spotlight, even John Cena does even though hes WWE champion for years

Let's not forget how gracious they are: HHH put over Orton and Batista over the last few years.....and that's it!

HBK: put over Orton and Jericho....wait...I thought they were ALREADY established!!!! But not until they went into a program with HBK!!!

HAIL D-GENERATION X! HAIL D-GENERATION X!!!

and DX even let Legacy in the spotlight for about 5 minutes, how nice of them!

And look where Legacy is at now! We have DX to thank for that...oh wait! Legacy was a failure from the beginning, and DX KNEW hence they could offord the loss! But it's Rhodes and Dibiase's fault! DX is harmless!

We love Micheal Hickenbottom and Paul Levasque!

I LOVE YOU D-GENERATION X

Because backstage influence powered by marrying into the boss's family is their's to put themselves over all else dnd if you're not down with that, they've got two words for ya: SQUASH MATCH!

Vee//Venom wrote:

I'd like to see some shit go on between DX and Hart Dynasty.

Damn it, why do we always go off topic?

All Forums do it!

Convos take a weird turn and before long, we are discussing shit that has nothing to do with the topic HOWEVER since Cena sucks its a good thing lol

Sidenote: Jordan for funniest membe

HBK put Orton over in like 2003 in that ladder match or something, thats what helped Orton get to stardom. HBK put Orton over in their fued, which is the reason he is the great champion he is today.

HBK put over Daivai FFS, who was in his first match. that just shows how much he loves to hog the spotlight, doesn't it?

Jordan Harvey Version 1.0 wrote:

TheGreatMintz wrote:

It's better than seeing Sheamus in the main event

I'll take somebody new over the idiot anyday.

And Keri, really? NO!!! They are PARASITES, or are blood-sucking ticks some type of astronomical sign too?

LOL sorry. Well you said cancers. And they both are, lol.

TRX wrote:

HBK put Orton over in like 2003 in that ladder match or something, thats what helped Orton get to stardom. HBK put Orton over in their fued, which is the reason he is the great champion he is today.

HBK put over Daivai FFS, who was in his first match. that just shows how much he loves to hog the spotlight, doesn't it?

HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT?????

LMFAO obviously, you cant use any RECENT examples because guess what? There are NONE! Dig harder.

TRX wrote:

HBK put Orton over in like 2003 in that ladder match or something, thats what helped Orton get to stardom. HBK put Orton over in their fued, which is the reason he is the great champion he is today.

HBK put over Daivai FFS, who was in his first match. that just shows how much he loves to hog the spotlight, doesn't it?

they buried Morrison and Miz, Legacy, Hart Dynasty etc. should i go on about the list of current teams they didnt lose to?

HBK lost to Morrison with his own finishing move in a tag match. The only reason DX is being put over is because of Triple H, not Shawn. And Miz....Sucks, noone should put him over.

And what has the recency of examples got to do with it? Your just proving the point that its Triple H, not Shawn, as Shawn has always put people over.

Its the exact same as the Hardys. They buried MNM, Cade & Murdoch, etc, and why? Because they were one of the greatest tag teams out. If Edge and Christian reuninted, they would be burying all of the tag teams as well. It has nothing to do with HBK's attitude, its how these tag teams are seen by officials.

TRX wrote:

And what has the recency of examples got to do with it? Your just proving the point that its Triple H, not Shawn, as Shawn has always put people over.

I said DX, not just HHH, not just HBK but BOTH. HBK goes along with it, HBK is HHH's BFF, he's just as guilty as Levasque. I dont hear reports that Shawn sticks up for the younger talent (The Miz doesn't deserve anything but thats another argument). Yeah, he takes the beatings and shit then HHH clears house as they're booked but it doesnt make up for the fact he still puts guys down, just by mere association. If he truly cared, he would've rejected the DX reunions in the first place. He didn't. And yes, the recency does matter because it makes your points more valid. You brought up MNM V.2; they disbanded not long after their program with DX and DX all but SQUASHED them in that brief feud. Legacy...where are they at now? And yes management does all the work but who influences them? Paul Levasque does. Michael Hickenbottom does. Cena doesnt have to because they are under orders to push him as much as possible. In terms of the Hardys or E&C, no it is NOT the same. They actually made those opponents you mentioned look strong and put them over as credible threats, as equals, (no offense to those teams, especially MNM) as they had to pull out all the stops to beat them, as the booking went. There are only a few guys in the main event that actually care about pushing talent: One is Randy Orton because he accepted going down the ladder to feud with Kingston who needed the spotlight and rub and the other is The Undertaker who is unbelievable at making guys, even guys that are utterly talentless, look strong because he puts them over so well and doesnt squash them, he puts them over and convinces the fans that they are credible threats to his character. With him, the list is long of how many people he helped push in his career-Punk was in the process of getting sold over as a credible main-eventer in the company from Taker until a Cena Snitch got him.

Bottom line, if either one of DX cared for the talent and have all of this influence to do something...then why are they the Unified Tag Team Champions?????

TRX wrote:

HBK lost to Morrison with his own finishing move in a tag match. The only reason DX is being put over is because of Triple H, not Shawn. And Miz....Sucks, noone should put him over.

And what has the recency of examples got to do with it? Your just proving the point that its Triple H, not Shawn, as Shawn has always put people over.

Its the exact same as the Hardys. They buried MNM, Cade & Murdoch, etc, and why? Because they were one of the greatest tag teams out. If Edge and Christian reuninted, they would be burying all of the tag teams as well. It has nothing to do with HBK's attitude, its how these tag teams are seen by officials.

lmfao, you used examples from 2003 when Orton was a ROOKIE...so dont tlk about how recent a example is....

Exactly. He put him over as a rookie. I didn't see Triple H doing that, even after he won the heavyweight title.

I think you guys are overlooking what Rated X s saying. He is saying that HBK actually put folks over (the year really doesn't matter) but he put folks over. Triple H hasn't. As DX they do bury teams but I really think that's more to do with Triple H if anything.

Blue Campbell wrote:

I think you guys are overlooking what Rated X s saying. He is saying that HBK actually put folks over (the year really doesn't matter) but he put folks over. Triple H hasn't. As DX they do bury teams but I really think that's more to do with Triple H if anything.

yeah, the year does matter...cause if you lose constantly one year and win the next...it does matter.

The only person Triple H has put over in his career was Batista. John Cena and Orton were already stars at the time and don't count.

Shawn has been letting overs get the world title stardom over him for years now, and he wins a tag title and you all whine? I don't remember anyone whining when him and Cena won the titles together, so why now? Oh, its because of Triple H, not Shawn.