RAW Divas Discussion Thread, April 12th

basically yeh
WWE have a hard time at building divas up.
hence why its been the same top 5 for a while
i mean even though Eve is divas champ....she isnt built up. and looks totally out of place.
unless from here on they push her like they have the other diva search winners.....well.....most

That's another reason I'm happy she's champ! A new REFRESHING person is holding a title whether she deserves it or not I dont really care, Eve and Jillian are the last few refreshing champions we've had.

But people we seem to ignore the fact that Eve becomes the First Diva Search Winner to Win WWE Gold!! well purple anyways.

haha I never say gold either because the freaking belt is purple and silver


I do like how she is the first WINNER to win a title, I wish that honor went to Layla but she can become the first British champion <333

Melina commented about the same people who get titles. It's to help the newer girls work even harder but WWE don't even care and that belt is just about taking turns, not about who actually earns it. I did find it funny that on Twitter Eve commented about her win and then said she's so happy she's going to write a blog. Where was her heart before that? Why didn't she write more blogs before? That just irked me a bit.

As for the stuff last night, Eve got no reaction, Maryse got some cheers, the match wasn't that bad but it was only about a minute or 2 and I did like the ending. Maryse's laugh was so awesome!

Oh and Eve did get some cheers when she won the belt.

the crowd popped nicely when Eve went for the moonsault. if she keeps doing some more of her high flying moves then she might get the crowd behind her

ricky_says_hi wrote:

the crowd popped nicely when Eve went for the moonsault. if she keeps doing some more of her high flying moves then she might get the crowd behind her

it worked for Lita so why not?

FARMSTA FARMSTA LL wrote:

Blue Loves Nathan Parsons wrote:

Mintz wrote:

Expect it to happen, especially with all the Maryse fans who think she's a goddess, lol. Seriously though, Eve got it too soon so there will be a lot of people talking crap on her because they don't feel she deserved it and she really didn't, not at this time.

Yea I know, she did win it to early but what's done is done and Eve >>>>>>>>> Maryse anyways so that was a step up! I'm just really excited for her reign because we will surely get a new champion in either Alicia, Katie or Jillian so that makes me so happy!

The baywatch match was just so Rosa Mendes needs her dark hair back, she makes a ugly blonde! We have enough of those running around. The Bellas<333 did you see that dropkick? Now those bitches know how to dropkick

not exactly true is it? theres more chance of Maryse getting it back and losing it to Melina then those three getting it. that or Maryse will go SD and LayCool will go raw, which would mean wed be stuck with Eve v Michelle and Beth v Maryse

That Better NOT happen. Now that Eve has the Divas title they better start pushing others on both brands. I want to see Eve v Alicia and Beth v Nattie or Beth v Serena or Beth v Nattie v Serena. They should move Gail and Katie to SD. Even though Maryse lost her title shes doing fine on Raw. I dont want her to stink up the good divison that is on SD. No offense to her, Heck I will rate Tiffany a better worker then her, IMO. I think Tiffany should go to Raw and Gail and Katie to SD. Id move the ones who can beneifit and start getting pushes, not so the same girls can be pushed. I know its a different brand and a different title but its still the same.

Blue Loves Nathan Parsons wrote:

ricky_says_hi wrote:

the crowd popped nicely when Eve went for the moonsault. if she keeps doing some more of her high flying moves then she might get the crowd behind her

it worked for Lita so why not?

Because Eve is no Lita. Lita actually made the fans care and put her body on the line in every single match. She was a great wrestler whereas Eve isn't even close to being that good.

Lita was a injury prone spot monkey yw!

On a sad note after performing some stellar high moonsaults her moonsaults are becoming as sloppy and half assed as Lita's though.

Really? I liked the one she did yesterday, kudos to her for taking that bump.

Eve shouldnt be focussing on doing flips and stuff
shed better suit power wrestling or techincal stuffs

and as for Eve being the first diva search winner to win a title...thats true
but thers hope for Layla, she can be the first diva search winner to hold the womens titlee....and even could be the first one to win both, if she wins the divas and womens before Eve wins the womens....aswell as being the first brittish

Lol, Layla will never win the women's title.

And Blue, are you honestly gonna say that Eve is better than Lita in the ring? People got into women's wrestling when they saw Lita in that ring. Hell, she was my first favorite diva when I started watching because of her ring work. She took risks and some pay off, some don't which is why she was injured at times. Eve will never get to that level.

stranger things have happened

but yh only thing with Lita was her moonsaults where sloppy as shit

Layla may get the divas title in the future but I can't see her getting the women's title.

Mintz wrote:

Layla may get the divas title in the future but I can't see her getting the women's title.

You could have atleast be nice on his birthay and agree......

KiwiKevin: Too Hot for WD wrote:

Mintz wrote:

Layla may get the divas title in the future but I can't see her getting the women's title.

You could have atleast be nice on his birthay and agree......

Oops, I forgot it was his birthday!

Still, a title is a title, she will get the divas title

Eve is suited to high flying stuff since she is a former gymnast like Kelly and Molly Holly as well although she was a power lifter as well. you can hardly expect her to be perfect if she's being limited to wrestle a 2-4 minute match. at least on Smackdown and Superstars she gets enough time

I just think it's bullshit that people want to give credit to Eve for trying to improve when actual great wrestlers like Lita put their lives on the line to perform high flying moves yet Lita gets called a spot monkey and Eve is sooo good

But Like Jeff Hardy, she is a spot Monkey, she is not a high flyer because doing a moonsault does not automaticly make you a high flyer.

She was risky yes, she was never technical, never clean or crisp.

I don't know why your bitching about people calling her a spot monkey since it's damn true.

another thing Lita suffered with the diva syndrome known as weak ass strike syndrome.....but yeh ppl have called Eve a spot monkey too

Mintz wrote:

I just think it's bullshit that people want to give credit to Eve for trying to improve when actual great wrestlers like Lita put their lives on the line to perform high flying moves yet Lita gets called a spot monkey and Eve is sooo good

I think you have it absolutely right. People are so hyper over Eve because she can perform a moonsault. Nobody wants to talk about the fact that she cannot perform a match in which she doesn't botch at least one BIG thing.

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First of all, I think before Eve won the Divas title, she should have had to publish her birth certificate. That way we'd be able to know whether or not she was really born a girl. Whether "Eve" was really born "Steve" is moot, in my opinion. She is the manliest Diva the WWE has ever seen, but that's just a tangential reason why Eve shouldn't be the Divas Champion.

Eve shouldn't be the champion because she has absolutely nothing to offer wrestling as a champion. A champion is supposed to be at the peak of their career and the best of the best. Not someone who commits the lamest botches like this:

http://bit.ly/9mZKLA

Also, people tend to be so blinded by her flashy moonsaults that nobody cares to notice that her pacing, measurement and timing are completely off. She takes 50 years to transition from one spot to the next, and while she is an OK seller, she doesn't know a thing about psychology.

As Melina explained in a rather impressive Twitter post, while Maryse is no Molly Holly in the ring, having the title on her means a lot more than having it on Eve. Maryse, whether you like her or not, is an impressive heel from a personality standpoint. Eve has absolutely no personality, and her crowd reactions will always suffer for it.

I just wish people weren't so blinded by "ZOMGZZZZZ M0oN$@ulTZ" and could actually objectively look at things. If people did that, they'd know that the decision to put the strap on Eve is probably worse than putting the strap on Candice back in 2007.

Ummm wait what? Velvet Botches in every match, still shitty, people love her, Melina botches everytime in every match, people ADORE her, Maryse falls over her own two feet in ever match, she gets less heat then Eve, Josie's Trashy ass bothces everytime and is still seen as a credible wrestler.

Sorry, Eve is not a good wrestler, that is too damn obvious, but she does Look it, she has a good sice, she is not twiggy like most girls she looks athletic, she is like Michelle basicly, who came in and just "looked" athletic, her match against Dawn & Melina pre-DSW, decent fun, because of the little athletic ability she posseses.

If they could book Eve like the booked Trish early in her career, book her matches right to hide her weaknesses and she could come off as a credible champion, not because she could do a damn moonsault, not because she is a good wrestler, because she could "look" like one, which many women in the WWE currently lack.

And lets not forget, for 2 years there wasn't a Trish Match without a Botch in it when the decided to prematurarly throw the title on her

KiwiKevin: Too Hot for WD wrote:

Ummm wait what? Velvet Botches in
every match, still shitty, people love her, Melina botches everytime in
every match, people ADORE her, Maryse falls over her own two feet in
ever match, she gets less heat then Eve, Josie's Trashy ass bothces
everytime and is still seen as a credible wrestler.

Melina botches in every match? Are you certifiably insane?

Every match that Melina has had a botch in recently has been with the sloppy Jillian
who doesn't know how to take her moves. To argue that Melina botches in
every match would be funny if it wasn't so incredibly dumb.

Also, I love how you cannot refute anything I said about Eve, so you choose
to point out other examples where people botch. Pointing out that there
is an existence of the same phenomenon, which I identified in one
instance, in other circumstances, doesn't refute the existence of the
phenomenon in the circumstance that I identified it in. In other words,
saying that "Velvet and Maryse both botch" does not refute the fact that
"Eve is a botcher."

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If they could book Eve like the
booked Trish early in her career, book her matches right to hide her
weaknesses and she could come off as a credible champion, not because
she could do a damn moonsault, not because she is a good wrestler,
because she could "look" like one, which many women in the WWE currently
lack.

On a brand where you have Katie Lea, Jillian, Gail Kim, and even Alicia Fox to make the argument that there are many women
who lack the ability to be look like credible champions is just
preposterous.

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And lets not forget, for 2 years there
wasn't a Trish Match without a Botch in it when the decided to
prematurarly throw the title on her

So because there is precedent for a heinous decision in the past that turned out well, we should continue to make those heinous decisions and hope for the best?
Is that your argument?

NEWSFLASH: There is NEVER going to be another Trish Stratus.

This whole idea that we should keep pushing talented wrestlers to the back in order to elevate feckless bikini models is ridiculous.

Jeez, you Melina fans just don't get it?

kinglyone wrote:

Melina
botches in every match? Are you certifiably insane?

No i'm not, but thank you asking.

Melina is a sloppy wrestler, like Lita, 90% of what they do come off looky botchy and choppy because of their sloppyness and not talking about her matches with Jillian, more so her matches with Beth, Michelle, Mickie & Trish, all are choppy.

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On a brand where you have Katie Lea, Jillian, Gail
Kim, and even Alicia Fox to make the argument that there are many women
who lack the ability to be look like credible champions is just
preposterous.

You fucktard, out of all the Women WWE seems to have a hard on, Maryse, Kelly, Candice, Maria, The Bella's, because of her built and stature, Eve comes off looking more of a wrestler, with right booking to hide her flaws, she can look decent in the ring, because just by standing her next to the other women previously mentioned, Eve comes off looking more athletic and build then the other women.

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So because there is
precedent for a heinous decision in the past that turned out well, we
should continue to make those heinous decisions and hope for the best?
Is that your argument?

NEWSFLASH: There is NEVER going to be
another Trish Stratus.

And i don't want there to be another Trish, i used her as a prime example because she is the most memorable and recent of the bunch. Didn't Gail Kim, botch her first 6/7 matches straight in the WWE after they pulled the championship off her because of it? Everyone botches, even the best of the best had a rough start, then i asume your thinking Eve is going to be the next Gail Kim too?

I'll save you the trouble: NEWS FLASH THERE IS NEVER GOING TO BE ANOTHER GAIL KIM EITHER

What i am saying by WWE booking her like they booked Trish is like when they booked Christy in her mania match and avoided her from doing any moves that involved doing irish whips with the ropes because she was no good at it, it's like them booking Michelle in matches where her legs are her strongest assets, same could be said about Stacey who used lots of Kicks and kept basic with body slams.

Booking people to their advantages, that's what i meant with booking her like they booked Trish, since she is again a prime example because she was used more.

Get your head out your own ass, because by reading my own thread i have yet to see where i say that Eve was an actuall good wrestler

KiwiKevin: Too Hot for WD wrote:

Jeez, you Melina fans just don't get it?

More like you Melina haters just don't get it. By the way, I wrote about Eve; why on Earth was Melina brought into it as the subject of the debate. Oh, that's right, because -- as usual -- I've encountered someone on the internet who can't make a coherent and factual argument, so they choose to switch the topic to something completely unrelated.

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No i'm not, but thank you asking.

Perhaps you might want to visit a psychiatrist. I am not convinced they'd agree with you.

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Melina is a sloppy wrestler, like Lita, 90% of what they do come off looky botchy and choppy because of their sloppyness and not talking about her matches with Jillian, more so her matches with Beth, Michelle, Mickie & Trish, all are choppy.

This is why I have a problem with intellectually challenged Melina haters. As is well established on the internet, I dislike Mickie -- a lot. But you'd be hard-pressed to find I time where I just bash her and say she is "sloppy" and "choppy" WITHOUT providing evidence to buttress my claims.

I can post something as preposterous as saying, "Hey, everyone! The sky is really green!" but if I have nothing to back it up, and every objective analysis contradicts it, then people are just going to look at me as crazy. That's the same way any reasonable person looks at what you just wrote.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but if you can't provide evidence and write your opinions in such a way to form, what we call in debate, a "coherent argument," then you are not only wasting your time, but also making yourself the laughing stock among people who possess brains.

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You fucktard, out of all the Women WWE seems to have a hard on, Maryse, Kelly, Candice, Maria, The Bella's, because of her built and stature, Eve comes off looking more of a wrestler, with right booking to hide her flaws, she can look decent in the ring, because just by standing her next to the other women previously mentioned, Eve comes off looking more athletic and build then the other women.

Look, I know you are frustrated because you aren't blessed with an IQ higher than the number of participants in a Royal Rumble contest, but using profanity in what should be a civil exchange of ideas only highlights that fact; it doesn't diminish it.

Putting away the illiterate use of profanity aside, nothing you have written provides a valid argument for why all the women I mentioned should be sidelined to give Eve a push.

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And i don't want there to be another Trish, i used her as a prime example because she is the most memorable and recent of the bunch. Didn't Gail Kim, botch her first 6/7 matches straight in the WWE after they pulled the championship off her because of it? Everyone botches, even the best of the best had a rough start, then i asume your thinking Eve is going to be the next Gail Kim too?

This is funny because your logic is all over the place.

In case you missed it the first time due to your obviously poor comprehension skills, let me be emphatic: POINTING OUT AN EXAMPLE OF A BOTCHER ELSEWHERE DOES NOT REFUTE THE FACT THAT EVE IS INDEED A BOTCHER.

With that said, the comparison between Gail and Eve is absurd. Gail Kim was a trained wrestler when she held the championship the first time around. Eve, in contrast, is not. Gail's botches could be chalked up to a number of variables and factors, but not because she was untrained, which is irrefutably the cause of Eve's botches.

The idea that because Gail -- a trained wrestler -- had a few bad matches at the start of her career, means that Eve -- an untrained wrestler who always has bad matches -- can be compared is the kind of logic that I can only expect from someone who uses words like "fucktard" in lieu of an actual argument.

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I'll save you the trouble: NEWS FLASH THERE IS NEVER GOING TO BE ANOTHER GAIL KIM EITHER

What i am saying by WWE booking her like they booked Trish is like when they booked Christy in her mania match and avoided her from doing any moves that involved doing irish whips with the ropes because she was no good at it, it's like them booking Michelle in matches where her legs are her strongest assets, same could be said about Stacey who used lots of Kicks and kept basic with body slams.

Booking people to their advantages, that's what i meant with booking her like they booked Trish, since she is again a prime example because she was used more.

Get your head out your own ass, because by reading my own thread i have yet to see where i say that Eve was an actuall good wrestler

I couldn't care less whether you think Eve can or cannot wrestle. You are foolish enough to rationalize her championship push, which is one of the worst things that has happened to women's wrestling in a VERY long time.

Layla > Eve

bahahahah
anyways Maryse looked goregous...the pin was decent

kinglyone wrote:

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With that said, the comparison between Gail and Eve is absurd. Gail Kim was a trained wrestler when she held the championship the first time around. Eve, in contrast, is not. Gail's botches could be chalked up to a number of variables and factors, but not because she was untrained, which is irrefutably the cause of Eve's botches.

The idea that because Gail -- a trained wrestler -- had a few bad matches at the start of her career, means that Eve -- an untrained wrestler who always has bad matches -- can be compared is the kind of logic that I can only expect from someone who uses words like "fucktard" in lieu of an actual argument.
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YOu are sooooo right, because Gail Kim, who made her debut in wrestling december of 2000 and started regularly wrestling in 2001, and was Women's Champion by 2002 in the worlds biggest wresrtling promotion in her debut match is far worse then Eve who has been WWE trained since 2007 and finally got an opportunity almost 3 years later for a second rate championship.

Damn how was i soo crazy. because Gail Kim spent 8/9 months in the indy scene and not that popular i might add and then WWE trained a few months before winning WWE Gold is just to damn crazy to compare.

what was i thinking......really

Again an indy girl gets "the I'm not WWE trained" free pass yet she has had less wrestled matches then EVE before actually winning the most honored women's championship in history.

KiwiKevin: Too Hot for WD wrote:

kinglyone wrote:

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With that said, the comparison between Gail and Eve is absurd. Gail Kim was a trained wrestler when she held the championship the first time around. Eve, in contrast, is not. Gail's botches could be chalked up to a number of variables and factors, but not because she was untrained, which is irrefutably the cause of Eve's botches.

The idea that because Gail -- a trained wrestler -- had a few bad matches at the start of her career, means that Eve -- an untrained wrestler who always has bad matches -- can be compared is the kind of logic that I can only expect from someone who uses words like "fucktard" in lieu of an actual argument.
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YOu are sooooo right, because Gail Kim, who made her debut in wrestling december of 2000 and started regularly wrestling in 2001, and was Women's Champion by 2002 in the worlds biggest wresrtling promotion in her debut match is far worse then Eve who has been WWE trained since 2007 and finally got an opportunity almost 3 years later for a second rate championship.

Damn how was i soo crazy. because Gail Kim spent 8/9 months in the indy scene and not that popular i might add and then WWE trained a few months before winning WWE Gold is just to damn crazy to compare.

what was i thinking......really

Again an indy girl gets "the I'm not WWE trained" free pass yet she has had less wrestled matches then EVE before actually winning the most honored women's championship in history.

I love that you gave up with arguing any of the other points. Don't want to embarrass yourself further? Don't worry. I understand.

In any event, there is a marked difference between going to an actual wrestling school for any amount of time, and being trained by wrestlers on the road. Eve is NOT a properly trained women's wrestler, and certainly cannot be compared to Gail back in 2002. Anyone with half a brain knows that...

urg arrogance is annoying
its worse when an idiot tries it
cough Blue splutter

Well i don't see the diffrence, Gail was down in OVW almost a year, Eve was down in FCW for about 2, Both worked about a few months between development and houseshows.

So your telling me those 8/9 months of manageng and wrestling part time is such a HUGE diffrence with the extra year Eve had training down in FCW Full time?

I didn't know that, i'll keep my half brain thank you, because it's far better then your stubborness.

Further more i didn't see the point in argueing match booking with you, because you obviously have no knowlidge in that, and i think was pretty clear that Eve isn't a good wrestler, which baffles me to why you continue insisting that she is, while i clearly already said she was. But hey, it's the internet, you want to feel you won some battle, all the best too you. You just pretty much added to what i said, Eve is a bad wrestler, that was establish in both posts, but i guess you feel you need to have th last word.

FARMSTA FARMSTA LL wrote:

urg arrogance is annoying
its worse when an idiot tries it
cough Blue splutter

dont go there or I wont comment on EXILE

tbh. im fed up of having to ask you to do it
either do or dont. i dont care

Don't worry if you wait on him too, it will be christmas again anyways

FIGHT THE POWER

KiwiKevin: Too Hot for WD wrote:

Further more i didn't see the point in argueing match booking with you, because you obviously have no knowlidge in that, and i think was pretty clear that Eve isn't a good wrestler, which baffles me to why you continue insisting that she is, while i clearly already said she was. But hey, it's the internet, you want to feel you won some battle, all the best too you. You just pretty much added to what i said, Eve is a bad wrestler, that was establish in both posts, but i guess you feel you need to have th last word.

I have been on the internet for a long time and read a lot of bad posts, but this is by far one of the most incoherent paragraphs I have ever had the misfortune of attempting to read.

KiwiKevin: Too Hot for WD wrote:

Melina is a sloppy wrestler, like Lita, 90% of what they do come off looky botchy and choppy because of their sloppyness and not talking about her matches with Jillian, more so her matches with Beth, Michelle, Mickie & Trish, all are choppy.

Are you really saying all of Melina's best matches "looky botchy and choppy"? That's pretty stupid IMO

Mintz wrote:

KiwiKevin: Too Hot for WD wrote:

Melina is a sloppy wrestler, like Lita, 90% of what they do come off looky botchy and choppy because of their sloppyness and not talking about her matches with Jillian, more so her matches with Beth, Michelle, Mickie & Trish, all are choppy.

Are you really saying all of Melina's best matches "looky botchy and choppy"? That's pretty stupid IMO

I think I have proved that this person is an ineducable retard.

What does "choppy" even mean? He just throws out adjectives without any evidence and hopes they stick.

Mintz wrote:

KiwiKevin: Too Hot for WD wrote:

Melina is a sloppy wrestler, like Lita, 90% of what they do come off looky botchy and choppy because of their sloppyness and not talking about her matches with Jillian, more so her matches with Beth, Michelle, Mickie & Trish, all are choppy.

Are you really saying all of Melina's best matches "looky botchy and choppy"? That's pretty stupid IMO

Yes even in high profiled matches against Mickie, Beth and Michelle, she managed to mess up atleast one thing, which isn't a problem since everyone does so un regularly. So i'm stupid for actually seeing the mess up, maybe i'm just not blinded because i'm not a HUGE fan. And by now you should know i am this un biased person, if you still think i am, then i'm sure the two of us will never get along.

The only thing that you have proven, is that your a blind ass fool who refuses to see what is right infront of you. Melina messes up in every match, which usually doesn't bother me because her matches are usually above standart quality so a mess up could happen.

I'd sit here and take any inslut but i won't be insulted on my knowlidge on wrestling, you may have spent shit loads of time on the internet, congratulations too that. If So i guess spending all that time on the internet makes you great and me a retard for not doing so?

Eehh porque estoy gastando mi tiempo con este conjo no me sabe. Zij is een echte kut, stomme kanker wijf

Lol, I'm not some blind mark and I would call Melina out if she botched but the fact is she doesn't. We already know why you have a problem with her and it doesn't have to do with her botching per say, it has to do with her stealing moves. You say you know a lot about wrestling when you're a fan of Maryse and Eve Torres, two fucks who aren't even that good in the ring. I am a huge fan of women's wrestling and I don't just like the ones who are improving, I like the trained wrestlers who have worked their asses off and continue to work their asses off including Melina so for someone to sit there and say she's been sloppy in her best matches you must really be insane but nothing will ever change your mind because you think you know everything so there's no use trying to say shit to you.

So saying Lita was also sloppy in some of her best matches is also wrong???


It's their style, Katie, Lita, Melina they all have this exact same akwardness they can't shake off. It's just their style that i've grown used too. Now because i said Melina is sloppy i'm bad? It's just how she wrestled since her Kyra days till now, has she improved?? Yes she has but her sloppyness she carries with her remains and isn't ever going to go away and i've basicly accepted that.

And want to know why i hate Melina? because everyone hypes her up to be this AMAZING wrestler while she clearly isn't and i could think over 30 women who could out wrestle her. That is my problem with Melina, is she a bad worker? No she isn't, but she gets WAY to much hype. People bitch about how overhyped Trish is and fail to see how overhyped girls like Melina, Mickie James and Lita are at times it's sad. Women who on a List of the best actual crisp and clean wrestlers, would be way on the bottom of the list, but because of their fame, their riskyness, their overness or their "unique" style gets WAY too much attention that is really needed.

There i said it

Well, Melina's one of the best female wrestlers in the WWE. If anything, I think some don't give her enough credit. They can't see how much she stands out from everyone else and she's got a great move set but people overlook that and would rather pay attention to girls like Eve all because she can do a moonsault which was why I spoke up about Lita. Lita always risked her life and put her body on the line but people don't give her enough credit but they'll give Eve credit for doing a moonsault and being able to pull it off. That's the problem, people would rather pay attention to the improved models rather than the trained wrestlers, the women who put their bodies on the line and work their asses off yet you want to say that those women are the ones who are sloppy.

And yeah I wasn't a big fan of Trish's but I can respect her hard work and all of her accomplishments.

I can't help they have a sloppy style of wreslting what am i supposed to do ignore it?? Like i said it's their style, none or strong technical wrestlers so came to accept that "sloppyness" could be a unique style itself. I'm not saying it's wrong, just it's what makes them.....them

Until Kevin can provide some evidence of his claims, he is always going to be looked at as a blabbering fool.

kinglyone wrote:

Until Kevin can provide some evidence of his claims, he is always going to be looked at as a blabbering fool.

Um Beth vs. Melina at Royal Rumble, Melina vs. Mickie Backlash, Melina vs. Trish Survivor Series.

Now when your done pulling your eyes out of your ass, you can watch the matches and find atleast one botch in each match. Good luck, now if you couldn't see them, then you probably pulled your balls and attached them to you head and not your eyes so try again

KiwiKevin The Most Hated wrote:

kinglyone wrote:

Until Kevin can provide some evidence of his claims, he is always going to be looked at as a blabbering fool.

Um Beth vs. Melina at Royal Rumble, Melina vs. Mickie Backlash, Melina vs. Trish Survivor Series.

Now when your done pulling your eyes out of your ass, you can watch the matches and find atleast one botch in each match. Good luck, now if you couldn't see them, then you probably pulled your balls and attached them to you head and not your eyes so try again

You are a FOOL!

Show me a botch in Melina vs. Mickie at Backlash.

omg ladies need to chill

Lol well i'm chilled, because i'm pretty much done with Melina, so meh.