Rank the divas/knockouts

Its always fun from time to time to rank the divas/ko's based on their in-ring abilities.

1. Gail Kim
2. Natalya
3. Beth Phoenix
4. Tara
5. Hamada
6. Jillian
7. Taylor Wilde
8. Sarita
9. Michelle McCool
10. Melina
11. Serena
12. Daffney
13. Angelina
14. Tamina
15. Layla
16. Madison Rayne
17. Tiffany
18. Alicia Fox
19. Eve
20. Bella Twins
21. Velvet Sky
22. Maryse
23. Lacey Von Erick
24. Kelly Kelly
25. Rosa Mendez

This is CURRENTLY not OVERALL! Ok?



1. Gail Kim - Exciting to watch in the ring, never fails to disappoint.
2. Beth Phoenix
3. Jillian Hall - she has rejuvenated herself on Superstars and has been putting on fantastic performances.
4. Natalya - in theory she would be a lot higher but she has yet to have that one breakout match so it’s hard to rank her, couldn’t go any higher than 4.
5. Taylor Wilde
6. Sarita - she is pretty boring, her match with Alissa was great but now I’m noticing how boring she is (it could be Taylor Wilde though lol)
7. Michelle McCool
8. Hamada - kicks and kicks and kicks? I like her but that’s all I think about when I think about Hamada.
9. Melina
10. Tara
11. Madison Rayne - she owns EVERYONE else (except Serena and Angelina Love but I’m not impressed with one and the other never wrestles)
12. Serena
13. Angelina Love - I loved her 2007 work, she gets on my nerves nowadays
14. Alicia Fox
15. Tamina
16. Daffney
17. Eve Torres
18. The Bellas
19. Tiffany
20. Layla
21. Velvet Sky
22. Lacey
23. Kelly Kelly
24. Rosa Mendes
25. Maryse

1 Beth Phoenix
2 Gail Kim
3 Hamada
4 Jillian Hall
5 Natalya
6 Sarah Stock
7 Tara
8 Taylor Wilde
9 Serena Deeb
10 Angelina Love
11 Melina
12 Michelle McCool
13 Madison Rayne
14 Daffney
15 Alicia Fox
16 Velvet Sky
17 Rosie Lottalove
18 Layla El
19 Santana G
20 Maryse
21 Tiffany
22 Eve Torres
23 Nikki Bella
24 Brie Bella
25 Tamina
26 Kelly Kelly
27 Lacey von Erich
28 Chelsea
29 Rosa Mendes


**Note, Blue you should be stoned to death for putting Michelle above Hamada...just stoned to death i swear.

**Note, Blue you should be stoned to death for putting Michelle above Hamada...just stoned to death i swear.

1. Gail Kim
2. Beth Phoenix
3. Natalya
4. Hamada
5. Taylor Wilde
6. Tara
7. Jillian
8. Sarita
9. Serena
10. Michelle McCool
11. Melina
12. Angelina
13. Daffney
14. Maddison Rayne
15. Alicia Fox
16. Layla
17. Tiffany
18. Maryse
19. Eve
20. Bella Twins
21. Velvet Sky
22. Lacey Von Erich
23. Kelly Kelly
24. Rosa Mendez

I'll just go Top 10.

1. Beth Phoenix
2. Michelle McCool
3. Madison Rayne
4. Angelina Love
5. Melina
6. Tara
7. Natalya
8. Taylor Wilde
9. Gail Kim
10. Sarita

Ill do best and worst. Middle I cant really rank all that well.

Best~
1. Beth
2. Natayla
3. Gail
4. Melina
5. Sarita
6. Taylor
7. Hamada
8. Tara
9. Jillian
10. Daffney


Worst~(5 Worst)
5. Tiffany
4. Velvet
3. Maryse
2. LVE
1. Rosa

1. Gail Kim - she's danced with the devil and can always make me watch a match of hers
2. Natalya - she's definitely the dark horse of the division since she's never really been given a chance to shine but we know she will eventually
3. Beth Phoenix - i'm loving her as a face right now and she's pretty scary sometimes
4. Sarita - i see a lot of potential here and she could be a great KO champion if she was pushed in that direction
5. Angelina Love - she's hot, can wrestle well and is Canadian. if her name was Trish she'd be perfect
6. Melina - best entrance ever and she'll always surprise you in the ring. come back to Smackdown
7. Michelle McCool - best worker on the roster right now and finally got a gimmick that works
8. Taylor Wilde - a bit bland but always makes the most out of whatever she has to work with
9. Eve - she just gets better every time we see her in the ring. she was a good champion
10/ Hamada - she's a great wrestler but she's obviously the next one to go
11. Alicia - i always thought she was bland as a heel but she's been great lately and one of the better Divas champions
12. Kelly Kelly - her work on Raw was a lot better than her Smackdown stuff but she's a bit of a darkhorse and could make a good underdog
13. Layla - she's hilarious and i think if she was pushed as a face shed be very over
14. Madison Rayne - she needs a bit of polish but has been a good KO champ
15. Tiffany - can hold her own in the ring and hopefully there's gold in her future
16. Jillian - she has gotten really stale and they need to revamp her a bit and she's a bit of a hit and miss worker
17. Serena - haven't seen her wrestle but she's good on the mic
18. Tamina - same as above but she's a little too generic
19. Daffney - decent worker and has a great character
20. Maryse - a lot of charisma but a lazy in ring worker
21. Lacey von Eric - she needs a bit more training but she is hot
22. Bella Twins - they have talent but i dont see them lasting that much longer
23. Rosa Mendes - i've been liking this new skipping thing but she needs a lot more training
24. Rosie Lottalove - she's a bit ragged in the ring but hopefully will improve
25. Velvet Sky - not hot, not a good wrestler, why is she there?

SP The Ghost wrote:

I'll just go Top 10.

1. Beth Phoenix
2. Michelle McCool
3. Madison Rayne
4. Angelina Love
5. Melina
6. Tara
7. Natalya
8. Taylor Wilde
9. Gail Kim
10. Sarita

I'm suprised Kev hasn't had a go at this list yet haha :D

Here's mine:

1. Gail Kim
2. Natalya
3. Beth Phoenix
4. Hamada
5. Jillian
6. Taylor Wilde
7. Angelina
8. Sarita
9. Tara
10. Michelle
11. Madison Rayne
12. Melina
13. A Fox
14. Serena
15. Daffney
16. Layla
17. Eve
18. Tiffany
19. Bella Twins
20. Tamina
21. Velvet Sky
22. Maryse
23. Kelly Kelly
24. Lacey Von Erich
25. Rosa Mendez

Rated X "UNAMERICAN" wrote:

SP The Ghost wrote:

I'll just go Top 10.

1. Beth Phoenix
2. Michelle McCool
3. Madison Rayne
4. Angelina Love
5. Melina
6. Tara
7. Natalya
8. Taylor Wilde
9. Gail Kim
10. Sarita

I'm suprised Kev hasn't had a go at this list yet haha :D

Sometimes you ignore shit. Especially shit who thinks Michelle, Madison, Angelina & Melina are better then Gail Kim, Sarita, Taylor & Natalya

"UNAMERICAN" Kiwi wrote:

Rated X "UNAMERICAN" wrote:

SP The Ghost wrote:

I'll just go Top 10.

1. Beth Phoenix
2. Michelle McCool
3. Madison Rayne
4. Angelina Love
5. Melina
6. Tara
7. Natalya
8. Taylor Wilde
9. Gail Kim
10. Sarita

I'm suprised Kev hasn't had a go at this list yet haha :D

Sometimes you ignore shit. Especially shit who thinks Michelle, Madison, Angelina & Melina are better then Gail Kim, Sarita, Taylor & Natalya

You do realize it takes more than wrestling moves to be a good worker right?

lets not get into an arguments here -_-

SP The Ghost wrote:

"UNAMERICAN" Kiwi wrote:

Rated X "UNAMERICAN" wrote:

SP The Ghost wrote:

I'll just go Top 10.

1. Beth Phoenix
2. Michelle McCool
3. Madison Rayne
4. Angelina Love
5. Melina
6. Tara
7. Natalya
8. Taylor Wilde
9. Gail Kim
10. Sarita

I'm suprised Kev hasn't had a go at this list yet haha :D

Sometimes you ignore shit. Especially shit who thinks Michelle, Madison, Angelina & Melina are better then Gail Kim, Sarita, Taylor & Natalya

You do realize it takes more than wrestling moves to be a good worker right?

You do realize they said rank them on in ring abilities and not the overall work right??
I know english isn't my first language....but i do know what i read....what did you read?

"UNAMERICAN" Kiwi wrote:

You do realize they said rank them on in ring abilities and not the overall work right??
I know english isn't my first language....but i do know what i read....what did you read?

Great so you believe in-ring ability is just about how cool the wrestling moves you do are.

I guess if we took into account charisma and charachter Maryse would be a definant shoe in for the top 5 right?

Shit then why the fuck did i put Melina so low? Her stolen Innovitve cool ass overdone shitty split moves shoulda been in the top 5 for surez

Beth only does lame body slams and stuffs....damn she is deffinantly on the bottom of my list. OMG Eve can do a Moonsault...NUMBER 2 PEOPLE NUMBER 2!! EVE is sooo damn cool. Moonsaults are soopo cool who ever does them has to be fucking awesome.

First i see how lost they look in the ring (there is where half those model ho's fall of my list)
Transitions from being on the offense to then being the one taking bumps.
How they handle themselves in the ring( are where they are supposed to be at the right time, not constantly positioning themselves perfectly, which makes it look choreographed)
Their timing.
How well they wrestle their perspective wrestling styles. (So i see their limitations, i can't shit on Rosie because she can't do a cross body or something off the ropes, each wrestler has a style and limitations and you take that into account)

And those are basicly the top of the cake for me when it comes to how i judge them. I don't care what moves they can do, only idiots like you look at that i guess....since you braught it up.

"UNAMERICAN" Kiwi wrote:

I guess if we took into account charisma and charachter Maryse would be a definant shoe in for the top 5 right?

Shit then why the fuck did i put Melina so low? Her stolen Innovitve cool ass overdone shitty split moves shoulda been in the top 5 for surez

Beth only does lame body slams and stuffs....damn she is deffinantly on the bottom of my list. OMG Eve can do a Moonsault...NUMBER 2 PEOPLE NUMBER 2!! EVE is sooo damn cool. Moonsaults are soopo cool who ever does them has to be fucking awesome.

First i see how lost they look in the ring (there is where half those model ho's fall of my list)
Transitions from being on the offense to then being the one taking bumps.
How they handle themselves in the ring( are where they are supposed to be at the right time, not constantly positioning themselves perfectly, which makes it look choreographed)
Their timing.
How well they wrestle their perspective wrestling styles. (So i see their limitations, i can't shit on Rosie because she can't do a cross body or something off the ropes, each wrestler has a style and limitations and you take that into account)

And those are basicly the top of the cake for me when it comes to how i judge them. I don't care what moves they can do, only idiots like you look at that i guess....since you braught it up.

Yes, only idiots like me look at moves, though I'm clearly not. Nice try though tool. If anything, I've inexcusably taken into part recent success with it, but either way, it doesn't change my 10 much.

Nobody's list in here is disrespectable. Don't be so emotional.

Rated X "UNAMERICAN" wrote:

divas/ko's based on their in-ring abilities

hhmm did i read their success? Their character? Their wrestling moves??

If someone could help me out, i mean english is not my first language, but i'm pretty sure it says "in ring abilities"

Looking at everyones list, you can see it's pretty much based on their wrestling, non indy fans noticeably ranked Serena lower then people who know of her work prior to the WWE, some even played favorites and was playing haters...but you can see to some degree it has to do with how well they wrestle.

Yours just looks like something someone who was on crack would make.......just sayin, even Rated X noticed the obvious FAIL of your list, hence why he pointed it out ....like i said...just saying

Furhtermore what success has Natalya had over first ever Knockouts Tag Team Champion Sarita? Or what succes has jobber Gail Kim have over former (and pretty recent) Divas champions Maryse & Eve Torres?? Hence making your list with added "Success" even shitter

alright back in your corners...Kevin try to lay off the light insults, hun (calling people idiots..etc.)


guys calm down...i wouldnt want to lock this thread.

FIne i apologize for the Idiot remark....it wasn't needed...but i don't apologize for thinking his list is shit

"UNAMERICAN" Kiwi wrote:

FIne i apologize for the Idiot remark....it wasn't needed...but i don't apologize for thinking his list is shit

yeah ok just try to keep the insults out of your discussion please.

"UNAMERICAN" Kiwi wrote:

Rated X "UNAMERICAN" wrote:

divas/ko's based on their in-ring abilities

hhmm did i read their success? Their character? Their wrestling moves??

If someone could help me out, i mean english is not my first language, but i'm pretty sure it says "in ring abilities"

Looking at everyones list, you can see it's pretty much based on their wrestling, non indy fans noticeably ranked Serena lower then people who know of her work prior to the WWE, some even played favorites and was playing haters...but you can see to some degree it has to do with how well they wrestle.

Yours just looks like something someone who was on crack would make.......just sayin, even Rated X noticed the obvious FAIL of your list, hence why he pointed it out ....like i said...just saying

Furhtermore what success has Natalya had over first ever Knockouts Tag Team Champion Sarita? Or what succes has jobber Gail Kim have over former (and pretty recent) Divas champions Maryse & Eve Torres?? Hence making your list with added "Success" even shitter

Notice I said inexcusably. And success was a consideration into what I already had, not a be all rank. Fallback with the elitist attitude.

eeehhhhhhhh.......another LayCool head...i really can't be assed





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You're reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally trying hard to paint me as a biased Laycool fan, though I'm nothing close.

*looks where Michelle is ranked*.......

*Looks where Layla is ranked*

Oh wait.

SP The Ghost wrote:

*Looks where Layla is ranked*

Oh wait.

Wait wait wait....here it comes



That pretty much sums up Layla

And sums up why I'm a biased Laycool fan who doesn't have both of them in the 10.

SP The Ghost wrote:

And sums up why I'm a biased Laycool fan who doesn't have them 1, 2 in the 10.

It sums up how great Layla is her own marks does't even think her "success" deserves any credit....you did add "success" didn't you? The way i see it she had had more "success in the WWE then gail Kim....ohhhh wait

Or considering her success isn't enough to surpass her ability as a wrestler.

LMAO and Melina's success of being injured since Januari is soooo successful she is ranked 5th?

Damn, your list just makes no sense no more.

So being off the roster for almost 7 months is more successful then actually winning championships because you are a mediocre wrestler that sat on your ass and did nothing all day, yet you were featured every week, have the most prestigues women's championship in the WWE.....yet because you are a shitty wrestler your not included?

Your list is shit, your theory is shit.....all you did was just toss the first name that came to mind. There isn't even a proper logic behind your ranking system, how is Madison Rayne who retired two wrestlers and is the longest reigning knockouts chamnpion in a long time less successfull then Beth who wrestled half of the last 7 months and held a championship for 2/3 weeks. I guess there talent triumf accomplishments? But Jobber Kim and Manager Natalya has done more then actually held championships this year Sarita & Taylor?? Your list is shit..i swear, there isn't even a proper logic to it to say...."OH i get it"...i think no one does.

I think this is why Tank left....

Queen Mintz wrote:

I think this is why Tank left....

Why because everyone was speaking their mind??? Wasn't it the opposite? I swear i need to polish up on my english reading...it seems to be going backwards.....all this dutch is really not doing me any good.

No, because this guy couldn't even post a list without you saying it's stupid hence why some here are afraid to speak their mind. Everyone has their own opinions on women wrestlers. We all won't like the same women and will think some are better than others, that's just the way it is.

"UNAMERICAN" Kiwi wrote:

LMAO and Melina's success of being injured since Januari is soooo successful she is ranked 5th?

Damn, your list just makes no sense no more.

So being off the roster for almost 7 months is more successful then actually winning championships because you are a mediocre wrestler that sat on your ass and did nothing all day, yet you were featured every week, have the most prestigues women's championship in the WWE.....yet because you are a shitty wrestler your not included?

Your list is shit, your theory is shit.....all you did was just toss the first name that came to mind. There isn't even a proper logic behind your ranking system, how is Madison Rayne who retired two wrestlers and is the longest reigning knockouts chamnpion in a long time less successfull then Beth who wrestled half of the last 7 months and held a championship for 2/3 weeks. I guess there talent triumf accomplishments? But Jobber Kim and Manager Natalya has done more then actually held championships this year Sarita & Taylor?? Your list is shit..i swear, there isn't even a proper logic to it to say...."OH i get it"...i think no one does.

Oh so you're off the "You're a Laycool fanboy" attacks after looking like a clown. So you have to try harder to overexaggerate the considerations I used in a ranking.

You couldn't be more emotional right now. God forbid someone have a different opinion on things.

Queen Mintz wrote:

No, because this guy couldn't even post a list without you saying it's stupid hence why some here are afraid to speak their mind. Everyone has their own opinions on women wrestlers. We all won't like the same women and will think some are better than others, that's just the way it is.

I saw everyones list, i respected them because to some degree , when you see the list, one way or another wrestling ability was taken into account.

His list just stood out and it's funny i'm getting the blame because i continued and was baffled to why the list was so crappy, yet the person who pointed it out (indirectly) gets a free pass right? Because your cool with X, he noticed the list makes no sense, but that's ok, it's X, your cool with him and made a funny remark on it saying "funny i didn't have a go at it" because basicly, i would actually say something because i think the list is pretty wack.

All i'm saying is, atleast someone had the nuts to point it out (x) and someone had the nuts to continue....but yet only one is seen as the bad guy.

Well X did instigate it with that comment but you could've easily ignored it so it didn't turn into an argument. What's done is done. This thread should calm down a bit though. Just agree to disagree

Let's try not to get this thread locked guys! PLEASE!

Kevin, please just agree to disagree and stop, dear.

It's getting crazy in here I know how you can go for hours in an arguement, but let's just give it up.

If AJ Lee is gonna be called up, just add her between Alicia Fox & Velvet Sky, i think in no time she can surpass Alicia Fox, but at this point, she has soo many tiny things she could actually work on and fix. Alicia is kind of a lost case and some kinks she might never correct,

1. Gail Kim
2. Sarita
3. Beth Phoenix
4. Melina
5. Natalya
6. Hamada
7. Michelle
8. Jillian
9. Angelina
10. Tara
11. Taylor
12. Alicia Fox
13. Madison Rayne
14. Tamina
15. Layla
16. Daffney
17. Velvet
18. Nikki Bella
19. Brie Bella
20. Tiffany
21. Eve
22. Maryse
23. Kelly
24. Lacey
25. Rosa

at least you know that Eve is better than Maryse MINDY!!!