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X Ultimate Opportunist
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| Subject: How McCool got to the top revealed Sun 23 Jan 2011, 11:22 pm | |
| Many have attributed Michelle McCool’s high-ranking status in World Wrestling Entertainment to her real-life relationship with The Undertaker. The two, who are now married, became a couple in late 2007 and she has been arguably the most spotlighted — and criticized — female competitor in the organization ever since. McCool herself is well aware of her critics as she frequently brushes them off on Twitter. John Piermarini, a former writer with WWE, recently started a blog recalling numerous behind the scenes stories which occurred during his two year stint with the organization. He reveals that he was the exclusive writer of Lay-Cool and adamantly denies McCool receiving preferential treatment due to her relationship with The Undertaker. Piermarini wrote, “Vince McMahon appointed me the exclusive writer for LayCool. Not because she got that special privilege but because we asked for it. Let me take this time to say Michelle McCool gets zero favors because she is married to Undertaker. Michelle McCool accomplished everything she got because she was the best. “If you need to blame someone you need to blame me because I was the one who would push hard for anything Michelle got on TV. Michelle could wrestle and Michelle could talk, a lot of MALE Superstars can’t do that and Michelle would have been successful with or without Undertaker. There were a lot of people who wanted to see Michelle fail and she fought that the entire time I was there.” | |
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The Sexy Vixen Billion Dolla Princess
Number of posts : 28940 Age : 37 Location : The Negaverse, OH Job/hobbies : Daycare. I adore children. Favorite WWE Wrestler : Triple H, Orton, MVP, John Morrison, Dolph Ziggler, Kofi Kingston, Yoshi Tatsu, Zack Ryder Favorite WWE Diva : Stephanie McMahon, Maryse, Mickie James, Layla, Natalya, Beth, Michelle McCool, Katie Lea, Kelly Kelly, Nikki Bella, Rosa Mendes (Victoria and Lita are my all-time faves) Favorite TNA Wrestler : Jeff Jarrett, D'Angelo Dinero, MCMG, James Storm, AJ Styles, Amazing Red, Kiyoshi, Matt Morgan, Hernandez, Samoa Joe, Desmond Wolfe, Jeff Hardy, Kevin Nash Favorite TNA Knockout : ODB, Christy Hemme, Jacqueline, Tara, Hamada, Daffney, Lacey Von Erich, Registration date : 2009-03-23
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Sun 23 Jan 2011, 11:28 pm | |
| but why did he push for michelle? because she was Taker's girl? and LOL @ Michelle could talk. in 2007 up until 2010...she was horrid on the mic. You could hear that southern accent of hers which was very annoying. there's tons of other women in WWE who can talk and wrestle better than her...so why did he choose michelle? | |
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Dead The Sports Guy
Number of posts : 31046 Age : 39 Location : Maryland Registration date : 2008-08-19
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 12:08 am | |
| Lmao, I guess this can shut all the whiners up that go "it's cause of Undertaker". Called that shit when I kept saying it wasnt | |
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King Silva King of Kings
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 12:10 am | |
| McCool is no doubt one of the best wrestlers in wwe so I totally agree with that.
As for the talking part not really the best but better than some.
Natalya is not great and imo neither are Beth or Gail. Mickie is good and Melina is decent as well. Jillian was okay to me as well.
That is about all the 'good' wrestlers in the past 2-3 years so I don't really know who people wanted to be pushed as a new heel on SD in 2009?
Who was even there?
Layla, Alicia, McCool, Maria, Gail, Victoria [for 2 months], Natalya [or was she on ecw already?], Maryse, and maybe one other person.
I think they made the right choice to push McCool as the top heel. Well Maryse technically was since she was champ for 4 months of that year and had to be drafted to make McCool the real # 1 heel but at that time she was for sure the best candidate.
Since then she's had mostly good to great matches so I don't see the problem.
The main thing I would have changed is last year I'd have had Gail go to SD over Kelly and she'd have won the Women's Title at MITB when Kelly had the shot [or even sooner like in June]. She'd probably lose it to Mccool before to set up the McCool/Melina match but the way it turned out was not that bad.
Now they are not even winning.. | |
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 12:32 am | |
| Even when Maryse won the title, she was overshadowed and no one cared about her. McCool/Gail and McCool/Maria was more focused on during that time. | |
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тrαv #1 Nattie Fan
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 12:47 am | |
| Blame him? Well, Michelle was probably f'n Mr. John Piermarini behind the scenes so that's why he is taking the blame. Ha. Either way, glad she's out of the title scene, FINALLY, and hopefully LayCool ends soon with Layla taking the b**** out. Go Lay (: | |
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 12:51 am | |
| I guess we should say the same for Trish Stratus then. She had such an uber push in the day, she had to be rooting someone? | |
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Queen Mintz Melina's Barracudas
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 1:07 am | |
| Lmao, Michelle can talk? She's STILL a horrible talker. Layla is a better talker than she is and Layla has much more charisma too. The only good thing I can say about Michelle is she's a good wrestler but she can come off boring at times. I still find it hard to believe that her relationship with Taker has nothing to do with it. Even Trish never made as much history as Michelle has already made. | |
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The Sexy Vixen Billion Dolla Princess
Number of posts : 28940 Age : 37 Location : The Negaverse, OH Job/hobbies : Daycare. I adore children. Favorite WWE Wrestler : Triple H, Orton, MVP, John Morrison, Dolph Ziggler, Kofi Kingston, Yoshi Tatsu, Zack Ryder Favorite WWE Diva : Stephanie McMahon, Maryse, Mickie James, Layla, Natalya, Beth, Michelle McCool, Katie Lea, Kelly Kelly, Nikki Bella, Rosa Mendes (Victoria and Lita are my all-time faves) Favorite TNA Wrestler : Jeff Jarrett, D'Angelo Dinero, MCMG, James Storm, AJ Styles, Amazing Red, Kiyoshi, Matt Morgan, Hernandez, Samoa Joe, Desmond Wolfe, Jeff Hardy, Kevin Nash Favorite TNA Knockout : ODB, Christy Hemme, Jacqueline, Tara, Hamada, Daffney, Lacey Von Erich, Registration date : 2009-03-23
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 1:12 am | |
| It took michelle years to be a decent wrestler. 2009 she was one of the worst sellers i have ever seen. She no-sold everything. even in SvR2010 she no-sold moves lol | |
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Angelus WD Stalker
Number of posts : 11345 Registration date : 2008-08-24
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 1:23 am | |
| 1. As far as her accent etc I hate Layla's accent but in the end that's how people talk. I mean different people like different things and WWE felt fine with her having a southern accent. I mean I find Nattie annoying on the mic. People find Melina yelling annoying.
2. She can broke alot more history because as time goes on there is always new stats,titles,and first shit happening in WWE history. I am sure there will be more history broken down the line by her and later on other divas too.
3. People are always gonna claim there a reason behind a person being champion and they will try to find backstage poltics to make up excuses for not stepping up there game. I mean It's done with Nattie in the pure fact that if she wasn't related to Bret Hart she wouldn't be in WWE. If Melina didn't sleep with Morrison or Batista she wouldn't be champion or in the company. I mean in the end the people who work for the company gonna do what Vince and they feel is best for the company. If Kelly Kelly was sleeping with John Cena she wouldn't be a champion in the end if they can't find storylines and the ablity to have her be a champion. | |
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Queen Mintz Melina's Barracudas
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 1:40 am | |
| - The Sexy Vixen wrote:
- It took michelle years to be a decent wrestler.
2009 she was one of the worst sellers i have ever seen. She no-sold everything. even in SvR2010 she no-sold moves lol She still tends to no sell at times. It's like she's trying to make herself better than everyone. And what it comes down to is, that NO ONE has made as much history as Michelle. I find it hard to believe that they wanted Michelle to make all this history because she really isn't the greatest wrestler there. If they wanted to have her be the first divas champion, fine, but she just kept going and going after that with all that history when others deserved it more and I'm still gonna think it has something to do with Taker. When Taker retires and Michelle is still on top then maybe I'll let it go, but while he's still around and she's still shoved down my throat making all this history I'm gonna say he has something to do with it. Notice how he's gone at the moment and that's when her push goes away | |
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Angelus WD Stalker
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 1:50 am | |
| - Queen Mintz wrote:
- The Sexy Vixen wrote:
- It took michelle years to be a decent wrestler.
2009 she was one of the worst sellers i have ever seen. She no-sold everything. even in SvR2010 she no-sold moves lol She still tends to no sell at times. It's like she's trying to make herself better than everyone.
And what it comes down to is, that NO ONE has made as much history as Michelle. I find it hard to believe that they wanted Michelle to make all this history because she really isn't the greatest wrestler there. If they wanted to have her be the first divas champion, fine, but she just kept going and going after that with all that history when others deserved it more and I'm still gonna think it has something to do with Taker.
When Taker retires and Michelle is still on top then maybe I'll let it go, but while he's still around and she's still shoved down my throat making all this history I'm gonna say he has something to do with it. Notice how he's gone at the moment and that's when her push goes away I wouldn't say it got that much to do with it. WWE only keeps champions for so long and tries to switch it up some with upsets etc. I mean they had a long title reign and served the purpose of making the title look good for being the 1st unified champion. I mean they gave the belt creditiblity after the Jillian Hall lame 3 minute title run. I mean they made it look more serious as having a champion hold it for a good amount of time. That said when the Undertaker retires she might be quitting wrestling to settle down as a couple. She got a good education and a career to go to after wrestling. | |
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Dead The Sports Guy
Number of posts : 31046 Age : 39 Location : Maryland Registration date : 2008-08-19
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 3:29 am | |
| this isnt the 80s, they dont keep belts on people for years | |
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King Silva King of Kings
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 4:27 am | |
| I know; I would not like that but then again I hate 5 minutes to 1 month title reigns for the most part... | |
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 7:11 am | |
| The way I see it, long title reigns don't prove the division is strong, it proves the champion is strong and the division isn't. A short title reign exchanges (like in TNA, which although are annoying), proves that the division is constantly on its toes and the title can change at any moment. THERE is going to be that chance when the champion will win the belt back one week or day later, thats called realism. Not everything has to go WWE style and the champion moves on to someone else. | |
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bobby_says_hi World Champion
Number of posts : 1480 Favorite WWE Wrestler : Evan Bourne, The Miz, Kaval Favorite WWE Diva : Gail Kim, Eve Torres, LayCool Favorite TNA Wrestler : AJ Styles, British Invasion, Ink Inc, Austin Aries, Motor City Machine Guns Favorite TNA Knockout : Angelina Love, Sarita Registration date : 2010-01-21
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 6:12 pm | |
| back in 2009 maybe it could have been argued that the way Michelle was booked was because of her relationship with the Undertaker. but the way she's been booked this year raises two possibilities - either she doesn't have as much backstage pull as everyone thinks or she isn't the greedy glory hogging witch everyone makes her out to be. if you think about it Michelle got pushed into a position that Trish was in back in 2002. they had built her up as the top face but then Lita got injured and Molly was turned heel and Jacqueline was pretty much an afterthought. with Michelle's reigns they had no other big heel to fall back on since it was only Layla and Alicia at first and then Natalya was with the Hart Dynasty. everyone was expecting Beth to feud with Natalya when she got the title but then they turned the Hart Dynasty face and Michelle and Layla were the only heels on Smackdown. then when Layla showed she couldn't handle her push after that trainwreck of a match at Money In The Bank, they went back to Michelle. just like back in 2004 they had no idea what they were doing with the division so they slapped the belt on Trish and she did nothing for a few months while Lita was out with that pregnancy storyline. now they've unified the titles they do have other heels that can feud with Natalya and both Michelle and Layla are out of the spotlight now | |
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Jordan H. The Nexus
Number of posts : 4884 Age : 34 Location : CHEYEAH! Job/hobbies : CHEYEAH! Favorite WWE Wrestler : John Cena Favorite WWE Diva : Kaitlyn Favorite TNA Wrestler : Bobby Roode and/or James Storm Registration date : 2009-08-10
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 7:43 pm | |
| So basically, it was a horny writer with a hard-on for Michelle that gave her the push? Clears EVERYTHING up, indeed.
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Lauren World Champion
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 9:00 pm | |
| Bullshit! Michelle's superpush came loooooooooong before Laycool was formed; so I, like many others, will continue to believe that her talent at "raising the dead" is the real reason why she spent the last few years being forced down the throats of everyone in spite of the fact that no one gives a damn about her since a block of wood has more mic talent and charisma.
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Angelus WD Stalker
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 9:11 pm | |
| So Under your theory who Cena been sleeping with? | |
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 9:13 pm | |
| What does Cena have to do with it? He's not in a relationship with any diva there | |
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Angelus WD Stalker
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 9:14 pm | |
| We are talkin about wrestlers who been overpushed and always make history and get lots of title runs. | |
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Lauren World Champion
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 9:29 pm | |
| - Ronnie wrote:
- So Under your theory who Cena been sleeping with?
I heard that once a month he tosses Vince's salad using a special maple syrup made in Canada from the tears of Bret Hart, though this theory is often debated since it was told to me by some dude in yahoo chat. | |
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Jordan H. The Nexus
Number of posts : 4884 Age : 34 Location : CHEYEAH! Job/hobbies : CHEYEAH! Favorite WWE Wrestler : John Cena Favorite WWE Diva : Kaitlyn Favorite TNA Wrestler : Bobby Roode and/or James Storm Registration date : 2009-08-10
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 11:16 pm | |
| - Ronnie wrote:
- So Under your theory who Cena been sleeping with?
When was the last time you heard a dude sleep his way to the top in WWE? | |
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Angelus WD Stalker
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 11:18 pm | |
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Jordan H. The Nexus
Number of posts : 4884 Age : 34 Location : CHEYEAH! Job/hobbies : CHEYEAH! Favorite WWE Wrestler : John Cena Favorite WWE Diva : Kaitlyn Favorite TNA Wrestler : Bobby Roode and/or James Storm Registration date : 2009-08-10
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 11:19 pm | |
| He was already a world champion and had plenty of tv time before he was with Steph. Try again. | |
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Angelus WD Stalker
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 11:21 pm | |
| he got alot more title runs from being with her. | |
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Jordan H. The Nexus
Number of posts : 4884 Age : 34 Location : CHEYEAH! Job/hobbies : CHEYEAH! Favorite WWE Wrestler : John Cena Favorite WWE Diva : Kaitlyn Favorite TNA Wrestler : Bobby Roode and/or James Storm Registration date : 2009-08-10
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 11:25 pm | |
| Doesn't take away the fact he was already on top prior and it was never proven or stated by other wrestlers in shoots or otherwise that was the case. Try, try again. | |
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Angelus WD Stalker
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 11:28 pm | |
| under the theory given McCool is only a champion and making a big legacy cause of Undertaker
So Under said theory
Cena had a ton of title runs and broke records so he had to be sleeping his way to the top too. | |
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Jordan H. The Nexus
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 11:32 pm | |
| - Ronnie wrote:
- under the theory given McCool is only a champion and making a big legacy cause of Undertaker
So Under said theory
Cena had a ton of title runs and broke records so he had to be sleeping his way to the top too. Nobody said ANYTHING about Cena, nor anybody wants to talk about the son of a bitch anyway lmao | |
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Angelus WD Stalker
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Mon 24 Jan 2011, 11:38 pm | |
| Under this theory the company is pushing Divas and Wrestlers based on relationship and not talent. That said Cena ain't the most talented wrestler but broke alot of wwe history and had alot of title runs just like people said mccool does. So the only thing that could be is he is sleeping with someone in the company. | |
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Jordan H. The Nexus
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Tue 25 Jan 2011, 12:34 am | |
| I wouldn't be surprised, requires a lot of asskissing. Wouldn't shock me if he's sucking a lot of scrotum, explains a lot. Michelle? That was a horny writer who jacked off to ehr every night and hoped he would get that pussy by pushing her like crazy....but Taker got her...OUCH! | |
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Tue 25 Jan 2011, 3:28 am | |
| Cena is being pushed because he's marketable, a great talker, and Vince is in love with him. | |
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Jordan H. The Nexus
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Tue 25 Jan 2011, 4:22 am | |
| ^Of the current era's standards, yeah. | |
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Dead The Sports Guy
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Tue 25 Jan 2011, 4:30 am | |
| no, Cena is pushed cause 12 year olds cream over him. as far as HHH goes...the on screen storyline with him and the McMahons were starting right along the lines of when he won his first WWF title....he was NEVER on top before the angle with Vince in 99...he was always a midcarder | |
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Jordan H. The Nexus
Number of posts : 4884 Age : 34 Location : CHEYEAH! Job/hobbies : CHEYEAH! Favorite WWE Wrestler : John Cena Favorite WWE Diva : Kaitlyn Favorite TNA Wrestler : Bobby Roode and/or James Storm Registration date : 2009-08-10
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Tue 25 Jan 2011, 4:33 am | |
| He had it before the whole thing with Steph, which was what I was saying. He feuded with Vince but not directly until AFTER he got the first title. Steph didn't come into the picture until towards the end of the year. Yeah, he was a midcarder before he got it. They ALL are before they get the big one. | |
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Dead The Sports Guy
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Tue 25 Jan 2011, 4:37 am | |
| im pretty sure HHH and Stephanie were dating at that time | |
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Jordan H. The Nexus
Number of posts : 4884 Age : 34 Location : CHEYEAH! Job/hobbies : CHEYEAH! Favorite WWE Wrestler : John Cena Favorite WWE Diva : Kaitlyn Favorite TNA Wrestler : Bobby Roode and/or James Storm Registration date : 2009-08-10
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Tue 25 Jan 2011, 4:46 am | |
| If they were, there's no way to confirm it. The earliest reports were from 2000-01 which y that point he was firmly established in the main event.
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Tue 25 Jan 2011, 4:47 am | |
| I'll have to say your timing is slightly off, D.
He won his first title in mid-summer: the night after SummerSlam 99.
The angle with Vince picked up in the fall where he lost the belt to Vince and recaptured it at No Mercy. Lost it at Survivor Series to Big Show, then regained it again in mid-December after Armageddon where he and Stephanie proved to be in cahoots.
He was pushed pre-McMahons, had a few opportunities at the championship before actually winning it. I'll grant him that. I still believe, like many others that his close personal relationship with the family is partly responsible for THIRTEEN championship reigns. | |
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Jordan H. The Nexus
Number of posts : 4884 Age : 34 Location : CHEYEAH! Job/hobbies : CHEYEAH! Favorite WWE Wrestler : John Cena Favorite WWE Diva : Kaitlyn Favorite TNA Wrestler : Bobby Roode and/or James Storm Registration date : 2009-08-10
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Tue 25 Jan 2011, 4:51 am | |
| I wouldn't doubt the last part because it's too much of a coincidence BUT ultimately Vince is in control of everything, he gives the yes or no. Nowadays, most of the main eventers get a shitload of world title reigns. His was accumulated over time. Wouldn't surprise me if some of the guys active now reaches up to the same level a few years down the road. | |
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| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Tue 25 Jan 2011, 5:12 am | |
| Edge is a prime example: First reign was in January '06. Fast forward a little over four year: last championship reign is number 10? C'MON! | |
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Jordan H. The Nexus
Number of posts : 4884 Age : 34 Location : CHEYEAH! Job/hobbies : CHEYEAH! Favorite WWE Wrestler : John Cena Favorite WWE Diva : Kaitlyn Favorite TNA Wrestler : Bobby Roode and/or James Storm Registration date : 2009-08-10
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Tue 25 Jan 2011, 5:30 am | |
| Right, I don't honestly get. 3-4 good runs would be awesome, but that's just me. For me, it's the quality not the quantity. | |
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The Sexy Vixen Billion Dolla Princess
Number of posts : 28940 Age : 37 Location : The Negaverse, OH Job/hobbies : Daycare. I adore children. Favorite WWE Wrestler : Triple H, Orton, MVP, John Morrison, Dolph Ziggler, Kofi Kingston, Yoshi Tatsu, Zack Ryder Favorite WWE Diva : Stephanie McMahon, Maryse, Mickie James, Layla, Natalya, Beth, Michelle McCool, Katie Lea, Kelly Kelly, Nikki Bella, Rosa Mendes (Victoria and Lita are my all-time faves) Favorite TNA Wrestler : Jeff Jarrett, D'Angelo Dinero, MCMG, James Storm, AJ Styles, Amazing Red, Kiyoshi, Matt Morgan, Hernandez, Samoa Joe, Desmond Wolfe, Jeff Hardy, Kevin Nash Favorite TNA Knockout : ODB, Christy Hemme, Jacqueline, Tara, Hamada, Daffney, Lacey Von Erich, Registration date : 2009-03-23
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Tue 25 Jan 2011, 5:33 am | |
| Edge will match or beat HHH's record before he retires, i think it's only January... | |
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Edgegore Fox is the next big thing
Number of posts : 1033 Age : 41 Location : Beverly Hills Job/hobbies : Working at the family business Favorite WWE Wrestler : Randy "Kick em in the head" Orton
Edge
Kofi Kingston Favorite WWE Diva : Laycool
Mickie James
Alicia Fox
Maryse
Favorite TNA Wrestler : AJ Styles
Favorite TNA Knockout : Beautiful People
Mickie James
Registration date : 2008-07-04
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Tue 25 Jan 2011, 8:45 am | |
| - TheNexus wrote:
- no, Cena is pushed cause 12 year olds cream over him. as far as HHH goes...the on screen storyline with him and the McMahon's were starting right along the lines of when he won his first WWF title....he was NEVER on top before the angle with Vince in 99...he was always a midcarder
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! It was Test who was playing Steph's man, and I can't recall what happened (injury/heat) but then HHH slowly ended up as Steph's man. After that.....it was all history as was his real life relationship with Joanie L. (Chyna). They were living together at the time if you read her interviews about all that went down. HHH was always a DX lackey, he was not one of the O.G's like X-Pac, Road Dogg, Mr. Ass and HBK later on. Somehow WWE and Vince have even convinced the fans that HHH and HBK are the inventors and original DX which is NOT TRUE!!! Cena is shoved down our throats cause Vince LOVES him. McCool though I like her, is in her position securely because of Taker and Layla is secure cause of her friendship with McCool. McCool is such a screen hog that she couldn't even let Layla be champ by herself. I really hated that even though I like Laycool. | |
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Jordan H. The Nexus
Number of posts : 4884 Age : 34 Location : CHEYEAH! Job/hobbies : CHEYEAH! Favorite WWE Wrestler : John Cena Favorite WWE Diva : Kaitlyn Favorite TNA Wrestler : Bobby Roode and/or James Storm Registration date : 2009-08-10
| Subject: Re: How McCool got to the top revealed Wed 26 Jan 2011, 3:28 am | |
| - HHH was a founding member of DX with Rude, HBK, and Chyna. That's fact. The Outlaws and X-Pac came in after (especially) HBK and Rude were gone.
- Chyna is an unreliable source as nothing she said was backed up by anyone else and her stories never match up because I've listened to them. She had and still has problems that persist to this day that make her look bitter and jealous (which she is probably) about the whole thing, and allowed it (HHH leaving her) to destroy her life-her fault, nobody else. Cornette confirmed that, Ivory, and even Eddie Guerrero. Anything she says cannot be valid or be trusted.
-Storyline wise, yeah Test was her man but the twist to it was she heeled and turned on Vince and joined HHH; that was just an angle, not real-life, and it's conclusion, as well as the beginning of McMahon-Helmsley. | |
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