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| Subject: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Wed 31 Dec 2008, 11:14 pm | |
| Does anyone else want to see the Undertaker vs Jeff Hardy at the Royal Rumble? i know i do. but i'd like to see it in a no DQ match or ladder match. id also like to see Jeff win cleanly no run ins or anything else. what do you think of my idea? Of course Jeff will most likely wrestle Edge AGAIN!!! | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Wed 31 Dec 2008, 11:42 pm | |
| Taker vs. Hardy.. ladder match. Already happened. Edge vs. Hardy one on one hasn't happened in the longest time. |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Thu 01 Jan 2009, 2:35 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Thu 01 Jan 2009, 11:16 pm | |
| Sorry Blue, can't agree with you here. I don't think Jeff has good chemistry with guys like the Undertaker or HHH, big powerhouses. I'd rather see Hardy vs. Edge, Benjamin, or MVP. Of course the last two wouldn't happen, but Hardy vs. Edge has been announced for the Rumble hasn't it?
And I'm sick of The Hardy Boyz and ladder matches, WAY too cliche. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Fri 02 Jan 2009, 4:57 pm | |
| what like undetaker or hhh in hell in a cell matches....dont mean nothing cliches it still happens. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sat 03 Jan 2009, 4:27 am | |
| Yeah, but WWE acts like the Hardy Boyz competing in Ladder matches are just soooooo spectacular, like we haven't witnessed the two in a Ladder match since the Attitude Era.
HHH and Taker in Hell in a Cell, that doesn't happen TOO much. Nowadays it seems like Batista takes HiaC a lot. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sat 03 Jan 2009, 2:54 pm | |
| WHAT.....do a bit more research i see you point but with all the Ladder matches since october 7 1997 * first HIC* there have been only cetrtain times where the hardys have been in it....there have been MORE Ladder matches that havent invovled the two then HIC matches not involving HHH or Undertaker
since its conception only 1 Hell in a CEll match hasnt involveed Underaker or HHH and that was a lame Kane v Mankind one....i havent seen a hardy in a Ladder Match since Armegeddon 2006 and before that there was one with jeff and nitro.....and then before that there was a 4 year hiatus with ladder matches NOT invloving a hardy in those four years and since there has been a HHH v Jericho, Undertaker v Brock, HHH v Nash, HHH V HBK, HHH v Batista, Undertaker v Orton, DX v Mcmahons and Show and Undertaker v Batista and Undertaker v Edge.....so to say the hardys are in more Ladder matches then HHH and Undertaker are in HIC matches is complete rubbish
Ladder matches with Mattt or/and Jeff is LESS common then HEll in a Cell matches with HHH and Undertaker in......being my point. HEll in a CELLs are way to cliche NOT ladder matches....there are more HIC and Chamber matches then ladder matches....so that point you made isnt too correct | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sat 03 Jan 2009, 6:16 pm | |
| ^ There was such a hiatus of Hardy Ladder matches because Jeff wasn't in the company.
Think of all the Ladder Matches the Hardyz were in before Jeff left the company:
Edge & Christian vs. Hardyz, No Mercy 1999 WrestleMania 2000, Ladder Match TLC Match, Summerslam 2000 TLC II, WrestleMania X-7 TLC III, SmackDown! 2001 Jeff Hardy v. Undertaker, RAW 2001 Fatal Four Way TLC, RAW 2001
Throw in a couple more Tag Team Title matches, and that's a LOT of Hardy Boyz Ladder Matches from 1999 - 2002
Matt Hardy did face Edge in a Ladder match in 2005, and competed in the MitB Ladder Match at WrestleMania 22, but that was the only one before Jeff returned. After Jeff returned, the Hardyz competed in:
Jeff Hardy v. Johnny Nitro: Ladder match, 2006 Armageddon: Ladder Match, 2006 WrestleMania 23: MitB Ladder Match, 2007 Wrestlemania 24, MitB (Jeff would have competed)
I'd say I've left off a few, those were off the top of my head. I never said Taker and HHH in HiaC weren't common, they have happened a lot and still do. I'm just saying that the Hardy Boyz in Ladder matches are way too cliche, and played out. To be honest, I do think Undertaker in HiaC is pretty cliche too. Just not as bad as seeing Hardyz in ladder matches, in my opinion. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sat 03 Jan 2009, 8:37 pm | |
| HHH and Taker in Hell in a Cell, that doesn't happen TOO much. Nowadays it seems like Batista takes HiaC a lot. _________________
is what you said
and undertaker in hic is just as cliche as hardys in ladder matches...but there stillwas a hiatus hardy being there or not they still couldve put matt in a ladde match..
undetaker was still in at least one per year as was hhh
all 3 are as cliche as the next | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sat 03 Jan 2009, 8:39 pm | |
| and other then the tlc and edge and christian ladder match there was NO more ladder tag title matches...and tlcs are different the ladders in aspects...so to say a Laddder match isnt as cliche
ps the undertaker jeff one was 2002
matt and edge weerent in a ladder match | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sun 04 Jan 2009, 1:05 am | |
| Matt Hardy and Edge competed in a Loser Leaves RAW Ladder Match on the RAW 2005 Homecoming, when the show went back to the USA Network.
And my bad, it was 2002 when Hardy/Taker Ladder Match first happened. I got most of those off the Ladder Match DVD.
TLC is pretty much the same concept as Ladder Match, I saw Jeff Hardy use a table in the WrestleMania 2000 Ladder Match, and I think that was before TLC was invented or at least televised. Either way, you have to climb a Ladder and you'll see a Hardy in it!!
And again, I'm not saying that HHH/Taker in HiaC is not cliche. I did say they weren't too common, because the last HiaC match HHH was in that I can remember was the one against the McMahons and Big Show in 2006 (probably wrong with that one). While it does seem like Undertaker and HHH are in almost every single HiaC, we only see one of those like once, maybe twice a year, whereas there are several Ladder Matches over a year's time, I'd guess 3 or 4. And the Hardyz are often in them. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sun 04 Jan 2009, 7:14 am | |
| id say there is about the same amount of ladder and hic mactches er year but isee yyour point...mine is simply that there is BIGGER AND I MEAN HUGE chance that a ladder match wouldnt involve a hardy....becasue there is more ladder matches that dont invovle them...where as all hell in a celss involve undertaker of hhh.
and yeah you were right hhh's was in 2006 but undertakers last one was a few month ago...the last ladder match was longer then that.
i got m hell in a cells of the hell in a cell dvd....id rather have the ladder match dvd anyway but oh welll
and my bad i thought it was just a normal loser leaves raw match like the kane vs umaga one was | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sun 04 Jan 2009, 7:16 am | |
| What the hell are you rambling on about? LOL | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sun 04 Jan 2009, 7:25 am | |
| lol we are going off topic..although it involves the topic participants
we are basically discussing how cliche hardys in ladder matches are and hhh/undertaker in hell in cell matches | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sun 04 Jan 2009, 7:27 am | |
| I dont mind undertaker HIAC matches, but Triple H ones are annoying. I wanna see another Armaggedon HIAC. I just realised, there hasnt been any elimination chamber matches in this year, hopefully there will be one at NWO | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sun 04 Jan 2009, 7:34 am | |
| there was two lol....at NWO when Undertaker won and faced Edge at WM and HHH won and faced Orton....with that dick Cena added
we could do with anoterh ARMEGGEDDON HIC...and i dont mind either im just sick of EVERy HIC match having either undertaker or HHH at least some Ladder matches dont involve the hardys
oh and at WM24 no hardy was in it...making the last HARDY ladder match WM23 nearlly 2 years ago....2 HIC matches with Undetaker happened after that. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sun 04 Jan 2009, 10:26 pm | |
| I know the EC was this year, but im basing it on the wrestling year- backlash-wrestlemania not jan to december. | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Mon 05 Jan 2009, 2:59 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Mon 05 Jan 2009, 4:16 pm | |
| - DR LL wrote:
- id say there is about the same amount of ladder and hic mactches er year but isee yyour point...mine is simply that there is BIGGER AND I MEAN HUGE chance that a ladder match wouldnt involve a hardy....becasue there is more ladder matches that dont invovle them...where as all hell in a celss involve undertaker of hhh.
I can agree with that. Today there are more competitors that could actually pull off nice moves in a Ladder match, but for some reason it seems like HHH and Undertaker are the only two people that can have HiaC!! - DR LL wrote:
- and yeah you were right hhh's was in 2006 but undertakers last one was a few month ago...the last ladder match was longer then that.
Taker's last HiaC was at Summerslam, the last Ladder Match was at No Mercy. But that Ladder Match was between Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho, so dang, can't use that one!! - DR LL wrote:
- i got m hell in a cells of the hell in a cell dvd....id rather have the ladder match dvd anyway but oh welll
LOL!! So you're sick of HiaC's with HHH and Taker, but you bought the DVD that is filled with those matches, and I'm sick of Hardy Ladder matches, but I bought the DVD that's filled with those. Nicee...... - DR LL wrote:
- and my bad i thought it was just a normal loser leaves raw match like the kane vs umaga one was
Gotcha. :P | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Mon 05 Jan 2009, 7:49 pm | |
| we truely are idiots buying shit we cant stand... | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sat 24 Jan 2009, 11:24 am | |
| - NataylaFanToTheCore wrote:
- What the hell are you rambling on about? LOL
My thoughts exactly :shock: | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sat 24 Jan 2009, 6:48 pm | |
| How's about you both learn to read!! :P | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Sat 24 Jan 2009, 9:29 pm | |
| *high five on that one Mick* see it started as a stubbern rival thing over HIaC and Ladders....and we grew havent we mick | |
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| Subject: Re: Jeff Hardy V Undertaker Mon 26 Jan 2009, 10:22 pm | |
| "What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger...."
While we believe that certain Ladder and HiaC matches are played to death (get it, death, like the reference, ya get it?), me and DR. LL are like the Legacy of WD. | |
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