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PostSubject: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 9:36 pm

Last night was SS and for the first time this year the divas didn't have some kind of match at the PPV.

Layla is still champion but she hasn't defended her belt on TV/PPV in over 30 days..

Will they ever set up another challenger for her?

Will this 3 hour Raw have a match with an divas involved?

Discuss what happens if anything involving divas in this thread.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 9:43 pm

They really need to sort out some form of number one contender match, considering NOC is coming up in a month. Maybe a battle royal? With someone a little fresh winning have Tamina or Kaitlyn win, have a similar thing to Beth/Kelly...where Layla is on commentary and comes in to congrat them only for them to turn on Layla....I see that being Kaitlyn since she has been doing the heel role in NXT/FCW as of late
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 9:53 pm

That would be good.

I'm a little behind but so far AJ has had an interview.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 10:02 pm

I really don't know who Layla should face off for the divas title there just ain't that many options since she beat them all except for eve.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 10:05 pm

AJ has been featured a lot as far as I've seen.

She made Jericho v Ziggler for Jericho's career and Ziggler's MITB contract on the line.

And now she just made ADR v Orton!
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 10:13 pm

Natalya just tweeted to khole to get ready for some Divas tonight so I think we're getting a match.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 10:25 pm

Good.

Hopefully Nattie is involved if it is a match that sets up a future # 1 contender.

I'd love her to face Layla since with more time on PPV I know they can have a really good match.

Hell I would not mind if she won the belt..
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 11:10 pm

As some called it a Divas # 1 contender Battle Royal is next.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 11:14 pm

Oddly Kelly Kelly and Beth Phoenix were not in the match!

WTF?
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 11:19 pm


So it's Layla vs Kaitlyn at NoC.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 11:23 pm

Kaitlyn is a good choice. i'm thinking this might be just an interim feud until Sara Del Rey shows up so i can see them just keeping it as a friendly face vs face feud. either that or Kaitlyn turns heel since she's been working heel on NXT (them testing her out as one?). either way this could be a really good match and one we haven't seen before
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 11:27 pm

I would love to see this match not only because it would be interesting but also this is a chance to see how far kaitlyn has come since NXT
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 11:52 pm

damn it all I needed was Layla to congrat Kaitlyn and her to turn heel for me to have nailed this dead on
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyMon 20 Aug 2012, 11:54 pm

Wow at Kaitlyn winning.. She may get the title match at NOC or she may get it before that Idk we'll see.

And wtf about Kelly and Beth not being in the match?

Layla seemed like a heel too; that was odd..
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyTue 21 Aug 2012, 12:47 am

Layla seemed shocked kaitlyn won
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyTue 21 Aug 2012, 10:00 am

i'm really looking forward to this match. i hope they give it some good build up if it's going to be at Night of Champions. since the Divas have gotten good amount of time on Raw two weeks in a row that might actually be a possibility. i don't know why but i get the feeling Eve will be thrown in somehow making it a triple threat which i wouldn't be annoyed about either
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyTue 21 Aug 2012, 11:05 am

Lots of divas commented about Kaitlyn's big win:

- RAW General Manager AJ Lee wrote the following to her friend and new #1 contender Kaitlyn last night after RAW:

"I know we've had some small issues in the past @KaitlynWWE , but I'm so happy for you. Look at how far we've come. #chickbusters4life"

Kaitlyn responded:

"ummm thanks @WWEAJLee ?? Water under the bridge I guess... Don't expect me to hug you though."

http://www.WrestlingInc.com/wi/news/2012/0820/555500/#ixzz24Bnap4Vi

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- WWE Divas Champion Layla wrote the following on Twitter to the new #1 contender Kaitlyn after RAW:

"Wanna send a huge Congratulations to @kaitlynwwe Yes it was a shocker but well deserved #number1contender #divas title #time2get2biz"

http://www.WrestlingInc.com/wi/news/2012/0820/555497/chris-jericho/#ixzz24BnkSsEi

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Meanwhile, Natalya was not pleased with the match result. She tweeted, "I'm not happy for @KaitlynWWE - she didn't deserve to win tonight. It was a complete fluke. Everyone, ESP @EveMarieTorres knows this!"

http://www.WrestlingInc.com/wi/news/2012/0820/555495/maria/#ixzz24Bns7RTr

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Tamina commented about the title in general:

- After competing in last night's #1 contenders battle royal on RAW, Tamina says she has the WWE Divas Title in her sights. She tweeted:

"Thank you to all my fans you all are amazing. When it comes down to going after that title I don't care who's in my way"

http://www.WrestlingInc.com/wi/news/2012/0820/555501/floyd-mayweather-jr/#ixzz24BnxLgiK
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyTue 21 Aug 2012, 2:02 pm

I am Not happy at all that kaitlyn won.I thought Alicia Fox or Eve should of won that match.The Divas finally get actual time and the Battle Royal still sucked.LMFAO when Tamina was head butting Alicia Fox I seriously hope kaitlyn doesn't win and we might not even get a Kaitlyn vs Layla match at NOC.And also were was kelly kelly??
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyTue 21 Aug 2012, 8:34 pm

Yeah the match got some time but it still sucked imo..

It is kinda sad.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyTue 21 Aug 2012, 8:44 pm

The best part about that battle royal was the look laylas face when kaitlyn won LMFAO.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyTue 21 Aug 2012, 10:57 pm

the amount of time really worked against it since there was only seven girls in there. if Kelly and Beth had been in then maybe it wouldn't have been so slow. just shows how shallow the roster is right now
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyWed 22 Aug 2012, 1:44 am


We now know why Beth wasn't there. There was a death in her family.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyWed 22 Aug 2012, 3:10 am

perceval wrote:

We now know why Beth wasn't there. There was a death in her family.

That is sad.

Good that they let her take time off I was getting worried.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyWed 22 Aug 2012, 10:15 am

am i the only one surprised that Rosa lasted that long because she always gets out in like the first ten seconds
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyWed 22 Aug 2012, 11:18 am

No but Atleast she took aksana with her when she got eliminated.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyWed 22 Aug 2012, 11:19 am

Nice to see someone different win, Laylas face was funny. I cannot stand Natayla, she really is pointless just wish they would release her. I hope Layla retains, and then her and Katliyn fued over a few months either that or Eve/Katliyn fued over the belt.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyWed 22 Aug 2012, 12:11 pm

I want Layla to retain once but she does need to lose it in the October PPV...she has had it too long and its too shit a reign....I always wanted a face Layla, but she needs to be a heel, cos once again WWE proves that faces have no charcater
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyWed 22 Aug 2012, 3:11 pm

LH wrote:
Nice to see someone different win, Laylas face was funny. I cannot stand Natayla, she really is pointless just wish they would release her. I hope Layla retains, and then her and Katliyn fued over a few months either that or Eve/Katliyn fued over the belt.

By "pointless," you mean one of the best women wrestlers they have, preventing too many matches on the level of Kelly vs Brie?
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyThu 23 Aug 2012, 12:50 am

Yeah wtf with the hate for Natalya?

If anyone wanted her released the main reason should be that they want her to actually be used elsewhere [TNA/Shimmer/WSU]..

Hell I would not mind her going to one of those places she hardly ever wrestles on TV and when she does she loses.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyThu 23 Aug 2012, 8:50 am

Nattie ain't going anywhere. She loves what she is doing and seems to have no problem in not wrestling as much, as she still remains busy.

I am sure by the end of the year or beginning of next she will become prominent again.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyThu 23 Aug 2012, 12:00 pm

Yeah I saw an interview with her where she seemed happy but still I'm sure fans of hers want to see her WRESTLE not do promotion for her entire career.

Ivory stated in a long ringbelles interview that she got really tired of that since she was basically their promotional diva in 2004/2005 and while she was okay with it for a while it just got redundant and she was over it. She just wanted to wrestle which I can't blame her.

It is odd to me that despite the women's division being in a HORRIBLE position in early/mid 2005 they didn't let her wrestle on Raw. I mean the previous fall they lost Jazz, Gail, Nidia etc and then the early part of 2005 saw Lita get injured and Molly retire. Trish had to face Christy fucking Hemme at WM! That alone should tell you the shape it was in.. Trish even got injured in April 2005 and was away til September leaving basically just Victoria, Christy, and Stacy.. Yeah that was probably one of the worst diva periods EVER and I think Ivory could have helped [and I think if she had been used more Molly might have stuck around longer as well since they are BFFs]..
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptyThu 23 Aug 2012, 2:59 pm

Natalya is a Hart and a good worker so likely she won't be released unless she wants to. the girls that are good workers rarely get let go unless they ask for it. Victoria, Molly, Gail, Jillian etc. and if you want to know why Natalya's still in WWE, watch her Superstar Toyz video and there's your answer. no other job is going to pay for that amount of shoes

i think Natalya's in a bit of a better position now than she was at the start of the year. she's not farting anymore and she wins occasionally. she's not really used as the heel jobber anymore
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There is something about Natayla, which I dont like, I think shes overated and she hasnt done anything worthwhile whilst being in WWE, I did like her when she was managing but apart from that I dont find her exicting or entertaining, maybe thats WWE's fault but right now shes useless, even Alicia is being used more than Nattie.
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PostSubject: Re: August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread   August 20th Raw Diva Discussion Thread EmptySat 25 Aug 2012, 2:16 pm

King Silva wrote:
Yeah I saw an interview with her where she seemed happy but still I'm sure fans of hers want to see her WRESTLE not do promotion for her entire career.

Ivory stated in a long ringbelles interview that she got really tired of that since she was basically their promotional diva in 2004/2005 and while she was okay with it for a while it just got redundant and she was over it. She just wanted to wrestle which I can't blame her.

It is odd to me that despite the women's division being in a HORRIBLE position in early/mid 2005 they didn't let her wrestle on Raw. I mean the previous fall they lost Jazz, Gail, Nidia etc and then the early part of 2005 saw Lita get injured and Molly retire. Trish had to face Christy fucking Hemme at WM! That alone should tell you the shape it was in.. Trish even got injured in April 2005 and was away til September leaving basically just Victoria, Christy, and Stacy.. Yeah that was probably one of the worst diva periods EVER and I think Ivory could have helped [and I think if she had been used more Molly might have stuck around longer as well since they are BFFs]..

With Molly, it was a health scare, but the Division shouldn't have been made that thin in the first place. This was the worst immediate consequence of Diva Search. Johnny Ace got rid of Jacqueline, Gail, & Nidia to make room for all these models. Then, Lita tore her knee up, Molly had her health scare, & Trish's back injury reached the point to where she was almost unable to move, at all. She'd been working with it since Summer of the previous year. So, they were left with a Division consisting of Victoria and... pretty much just Victoria. Given the circumstances, I don't understand why they didn't keep Velvet on the roster past that one Heat match during the Summer of 2005.

The Division was pretty much put on hold until it was time to bring Mickie up to the main roster, along with Melina, Jillian, & Beth. That seems to be the state of the Division, right now. It's on hold until it's time to call Paige, Skyler, Emma, and, of course, Sara to the main roster. But, again, it shouldn't have gotten to that point in the first place. I find it amazing that Johnny Ace was able to keep that position for so long.

But, I suspect those women are the reason Nattie & Beth don't seem to mind being on the sidelines, currently. Their talents are wasted with Kelly Kelly and the like. But, they'll soon have some women they don't have to hold back with. Similarly, Naomi probably isn't bugged by her current dancer job, because she knows some opportunities will be there if she waits.

I know many ask, "Why don't Beth & Nattie ask for their release and go to TNA? After all, the Knockouts Division is better than the Divas Division." Yes, it is... right at the moment, still carrying some momentum from it's past. But, well... I, for one, am not looking forward to the wrestling debut of Brooke Hogan. And, if you're Nattie & Beth and you're looking ahead, who would you rather work with in a match: Sara Del Rey or the Hulkster's little girl?

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