WD's WWE Divas Discussion

I wouldn't mind it.. the Layla/Katie thing, that is.

How about we take the strap off Michelle and put it on Natayla or Melina.. then those two can feud, and just remove Michelle from the programming altogether. Say what you will, go to hell and back to defend her, she just sucks.

The Unchained Glitch wrote:

I wouldn't mind it.. the Layla/Katie thing, that is.

How about we take the strap off Michelle and put it on Natayla or Melina.. then those two can feud, and just remove Michelle from the programming altogether. Say what you will, go to hell and back to defend her, she just sucks.

Agreed. They need to do that. But sadly Michelle will probably always be in the spotlight somewhere she has been since 2007.

Well Mickie and Melina were in the spotlight from 2005-2007 while Michelle was on SD with barely anything to work with. I'm happy for her

I'm not, and I don't understand how you could be either, Michelle found a date in the Undertaker then got boosted up there.. you do realize if that had not happened she would not be where she stands today.

The Unchained Glitch wrote:

I'm not, and I don't understand how you could be either, Michelle found a date in the Undertaker then got boosted up there.. you do realize if that had not happened she would not be where she stands today.

Hey! She loves wrestling and is with Taker, he has backstage pull and that worked out well for her. I'm not hating on her at all, Triple H did the same thing with Stephanie but personal feelings aside, he is one of the best in the business. Michelle has her haters but she is one of the best divas currently.

*Ducks*

It's one thing to get a slight push and shine for a few months.

but Michelle has been in the spotlight for 2 years. that's too long.

We've seen what she can do. and i think we've had enough lol

Best divas? No-selling, boring move-set, hardly ever taking a pin-fall and being there due to a relationship? That's your definition of best?

I agree with Vix.. she's shown what she can do in the two years and I am not impressed whatsoever.

The Unchained Glitch wrote:

Best divas? No-selling, boring move-set, hardly ever taking a pin-fall and being there due to a relationship? That's your definition of best?

I agree with Vix.. she's shown what she can do in the two years and I am not impressed whatsoever.

Best Divas? Absolutely, I dig her and she is one of the top girls in the WWE. Her haters are not going to change that.

No Selling? She needs help with that tbh lol

Boring move set? As opposed to the generic headscissors (Kelly Kelly, Maria and Ashley) Crossbodies (Kelly Kelly, Maria, Candice and Ashley) and not to mention the basic shit all those bitches do. Michelle has a kickass moveset. Which diva does the Big Boot? Belly to Belly? Uppercuts? Not to mention the "Faithbreaker" Say what you will but her moveset rocks.

Hardly taking a pinfall? Um she took one on SD yesterday um FAIL! She took the last call a few months ago too. She's also the champion, she has to be protected.

Being there due to a relationship? Erm she wanted to become a wrestler way before she got with Taker so yea FAIL!

She's shown what she can do over the past two years? Um so has Mickie James, Melina and Beth. Oh I know! Let's depush all four of them and let Maria, Eve, Maryse, Kelly, Rosa and The Bella's carry the division. Lets do it!

Melina wasnt protected as champ when Michelle was kicking her ass right after her being drafted to SD.


side note: ewwwww i defended Melina :P

Blue Campbell wrote:

The Unchained Glitch wrote:

Best divas? No-selling, boring move-set, hardly ever taking a pin-fall and being there due to a relationship? That's your definition of best?

I agree with Vix.. she's shown what she can do in the two years and I am not impressed whatsoever.

Best Divas? Absolutely, I dig her and she is one of the top girls in the WWE. Her haters are not going to change that.

No Selling? She needs help with that tbh lol

Boring move set? As opposed to the generic headscissors (Kelly Kelly, Maria and Ashley) Crossbodies (Kelly Kelly, Maria, Candice and Ashley) and not to mention the basic shit all those bitches do. Michelle has a kickass moveset. Which diva does the Big Boot? Belly to Belly? Uppercuts? Not to mention the "Faithbreaker" Say what you will but her moveset rocks.

Hardly taking a pinfall? Um she took one on SD yesterday um FAIL! She took the last call a few months ago too. She's also the champion, she has to be protected.

Being there due to a relationship? Erm she wanted to become a wrestler way before she got with Taker so yea FAIL!

She's shown what she can do over the past two years? Um so has Mickie James, Melina and Beth. Oh I know! Let's depush all four of them and let Maria, Eve, Maryse, Kelly, Rosa and The Bella's carry the division. Lets do it!

um her moveset firstly isnt kick ass, its just as generic as Kellys moveset, Kelly works with gymnatstics, Michelle works with technial stuff. But still her moveset is boring, it lacks originality and variety.

Who can do a big boot? quite a few divas COULD, exception being Layla, cos shes soo damn small . the fact is Michelle uses the moves, as shes the tallest diva.
Who can do a belly to belly? damn near anydiva could, again she works with what shes got, height and strength
Every divas does damn uppercuts. you are seriously overhypng her moveset, its basic, sure she uses moves that other divas use rarely, like a belly to belly for instance, so what, Kelly does something Michelle doesnt do, a headscissors, and as far as a basic move goes both moves are quite basic, just Kelly uses one, and Michelle uses the other.
Her moves are basic, and lack anysort of originality, girls like Eve and Layla have managed to turn some moves into something they can claim as mostly their own, not saying they invented the move, but the cartwheel senton/moonsault, and Laylas arm drag reversal into a pin, are both more original then anything MIchelle has.

the second bolded part about fall taking....um what does ONE pin on SD this week prove, fuck all. as Joey said she HARDLY takes a pinfall, i can probably count on my left hand how many times in the past 3-5 months since the draft that Michelle took the fall, she has taken a fall i think 3 times to Melina, the rest of the time its been Layla. So one pinfall dont proove shit.

When Melina was champ before Michelle took it was she protected hell no.

Do you even understand that word FAIL blue. Its all well and good wanting to be a wrestler before dating a respected guy, but the fact that she suddenly got shot to the top when they had divas more over like Torrie and Victoria on the brand at the same rough time she started dating Taker, just prooves that he has somethign to do with it, yes she improved and was one of the only divas on the brand, but if anything it shoulda been a Torrie v Victoria feud rather then MIchelle squashing Victoria all the time. The same thing can be said with HHH, sure he was over in 99 as part of DX, but its funny how the same time he begins having a secret affair with the daughter that he gets a world title.

All Michelle has shown is that she cant or isnt willing to sell other divas moves, she clearly is arrogant and has the same "im better then everyone" attitude as Melina, shes shown her attitudes when stating she never knew who AJStyles was like a total noob. Shes shown that she cant get over no matter what, and that she is a total bore.....wow top diva material. MIckie shown that even though she botches the fans still care, Beth has shown that she is the backbone of Raw and Melina has shown great improvement and is the backbone of SD

I agree with everything you said LL.

agree enough to rep it???

I would have.. but of course I don't see the option there.

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um her moveset firstly isnt kick ass, its just as generic as Kellys moveset, Kelly works with gymnatstics, Michelle works with technial stuff. But still her moveset is boring, it lacks originality and variety.

Who can do a big boot? quite a few divas COULD, exception being Layla, cos shes soo damn small . the fact is Michelle uses the moves, as shes the tallest diva.
Who can do a belly to belly? damn near anydiva could, again she works with what shes got, height and strength
Every divas does damn uppercuts. you are seriously overhypng her moveset, its basic, sure she uses moves that other divas use rarely, like a belly to belly for instance, so what, Kelly does something Michelle doesnt do, a headscissors, and as far as a basic move goes both moves are quite basic, just Kelly uses one, and Michelle uses the other.
Her moves are basic, and lack anysort of originality, girls like Eve and Layla have managed to turn some moves into something they can claim as mostly their own, not saying they invented the move, but the cartwheel senton/moonsault, and Laylas arm drag reversal into a pin, are both more original then anything MIchelle has.

the second bolded part about fall taking....um what does ONE pin on SD this week prove, fuck all. as Joey said she HARDLY takes a pinfall, i can probably count on my left hand how many times in the past 3-5 months since the draft that Michelle took the fall, she has taken a fall i think 3 times to Melina, the rest of the time its been Layla. So one pinfall dont proove shit.

When Melina was champ before Michelle took it was she protected hell no.

Do you even understand that word FAIL blue. Its all well and good wanting to be a wrestler before dating a respected guy, but the fact that she suddenly got shot to the top when they had divas more over like Torrie and Victoria on the brand at the same rough time she started dating Taker, just prooves that he has somethign to do with it, yes she improved and was one of the only divas on the brand, but if anything it shoulda been a Torrie v Victoria feud rather then MIchelle squashing Victoria all the time. The same thing can be said with HHH, sure he was over in 99 as part of DX, but its funny how the same time he begins having a secret affair with the daughter that he gets a world title.

All Michelle has shown is that she cant or isnt willing to sell other divas moves, she clearly is arrogant and has the same "im better then everyone" attitude as Melina, shes shown her attitudes when stating she never knew who AJStyles was like a total noob. Shes shown that she cant get over no matter what, and that she is a total bore.....wow top diva material. MIckie shown that even though she botches the fans still care, Beth has shown that she is the backbone of Raw and Melina has shown great improvement and is the backbone of SD

Well In MY opinion, its a kick ass moveset


And erm Of course all the divas can do Big Boots and Belly to Belly's but do they ?NO! The point was that Michelle's moveset is beyond basic and she does things that others dont. Also who cares if the moves are original? I don't! We are talking movesets here, not who is original or not

Well congrats, you remember how many pinfalls she took, its the way things should be. The champ should be protected, Layla is a jobber. Her job is to take the pins.

We agree on that. Melina was supposed to be protected to but BOOKING fucked that up.

Victoria and Torrie were feuding already though so they started pushing Michelle. I'm sure Torrie was meant to be the first Divas Champion but she got hurt, retired and that's tough shit. Michelle was the next best thing and the rest is history!

Michelle is a total bore, so what? Bitch gets it done in the ring and I love her for it<333

Sad. Michelle doesn't get it done in the ring. No-selling and a generic moveset doesn't cut it.

Stop marking out for her and realize this, really.

no selling is good, Blue? gimme a break

*coughs*

I guess I shall be adding mah pennies cuz I've been told someone likes thems..


I think Michelle falls into that catagory a lot of the chicks diva fans call "credible wrestlers". Mickie, Beth, Nattie, & Michelle all excute moves like the guys, but it takes more than that to get over. If Mickie was her lazy ass when she came in 2005, do you think she would've gotten over? Hell, I am surprise she is still "over". Beth & Michelle have been equally pushed since 2007 as far as their brands are concerned. However, Beth couldn't even maintain cheap heat when she dissed Canadia. And we all know Michelle has the charisma of that oak tree she learned how to sell from. Nattie, for all of her internet fans going shit crazy over the "lack" of use, hasn't shown a damn thing as to why little Cindy and her brothers should care. Blame on the booking, but she is being used weekly as part of the Hart Danasty and compared to the Raw chicks, she has been giving a fairly decent amount of matches. That's exposure.

On the other hand, look at Melina. I can't stand the drag queen, but the crowd sometimes DOES care about her matches. She sells. She brings intensity. And guess what, she isn't the best excuter of moves, but that doesn't matter! Why else is that when SHE is on the offense of those 'great' matches with Michelle, people care.. But when Michelle sulks her way back on top no one cares? So, if you don't believe, why is Kelly over? I mean she's hot and generic like the other bazillion divas, but hey she sells. Basic ring psychology tells us that when a believeable face is getting their face kicked in, the crowd will be more sympathic to cheering when the face finally does get a move in. Okay, 9 out of 10 times Kelly's moves don't exactly "wow" anyone. However like with Melina, excution isn't the top priority for pro wrestling. It helps.. But yeah. Sad but true.

I believe Layla is slowly getting more heel heat. Look at the way Layla teases Melina and the way Michelle teases Melina. BIG DIFFERENCE. She's been getting much more exposure since going to SD because she is wrestling. She IS getting better in the ring and I think people who are denying that aren't stupid.. They are just ridicliously biased cuz she is being used. Notice these same people think Nattie and Katie and Jillian should be pushed to the moon.. Hmm.. What really helped was that first month of her and Eve going back and forth. It wasn't one sided and it wasn't the same thing over and over.

Okay. One more thing.. Michelle DOES fail. There's no redeeming qualities to her. When she was face, she was so damn unlikeable with =D =D =D fake smile and her forced moves. As a heel, she went from no one giving a damn to a bunch of people not giving a damn. Good thing she's on SD. I don't know if her ego would admit that she's not over and prolly will never be.

With so many changes this week, I want everything to start fresh and new. WWE needs to give the girls character so that we can indentify with them and please give us reasons to care about them, promos, mic time, segments. 10 minute matches. Make us care damn it! WWE has a solid group of ladies and I dont think they realize this

I agree Blue.

I want Melina v Jillian-Divas Title

Maryse with Miz, she had the title for 7 months already what more do fans want? Others need to shine for a while, so have her step out of the divison for a while.

Bellas to Turn heel or keep escorting hosts and appear in backstage segments.

Eve to not get lost in the shuffle.

Beth to turn face and take the title of Michelle.

Beth v Nattie for the womens title.

Michelle to step back from the spotlight.

Layla to be Dolph's girl and feud with Maria.

Mickie to get back in the grove.

I want a Maryse vs Kelly feud.

The Sexy Vixen wrote:

I want a Maryse vs Kelly feud.

That would be terrible, there last match was embrassing to watch. Maryse Vs Alicia plz

Maryse is set to take on Eve upon her return.

but Alicia has already had a title feud with Mickie, and still no one cared about her.

Maryse vs Kelly would be better. Kelly gets a reaction atleast...and she might help Maryse get heat.

Kelly never helped Beth get heat, she won't help Maryse. Alicia is not over either but she is capable of getting reaction, that day she kicked Mickie's head in was example of that.

Beth didnt need help.

Alicia still didnt get much of a reaction during her ppv match with Mickie.

Kelly isnt as over as she was but she's over enough to get heat for someone if they beat her senseless.

I'd love for that to happen haha.

Gail should turn heel and beat the brakes off Kelly backstage

we havent had a badass backstage diva beatdown in forever.

Gail needs to head back to TNA, they are treating her like shit

well her debut was messed up because of her Visa paperwork. remember we were all waiting for the day she debuted? well WWE couldnt do it as soon as they wanted cause her paperwork had to clear first...so that was the first mistake.

then they gave her crappy music

and not even a title run.

and they teased a heel turn like 3 times with her but never follow up

I say put her in a tag with kelly....they lose, Gail gets pissed and beats the crap out of Kelly.

and give Gail back her 2003 theme!!

Her matrix theme was badass, it wont hurt to give her mic time. She was decent in TNA on the mic. One thing that I love about her is that she bumps her ass off for everyone especially the lessar talents (Maryse, Alicia, Kelly). That's really sweet of her.

I still cant forget the amazing selling Maryse did of Gail's move "Eat Dafeat"

Maryse's eyes rolling back in her head.


Gail's 2003 theme would be perfect for a heel turn. then she should get a title run.

I agree they need to turn Gail heel. She was good as a heel in 2003. I feel they were the ones who wanted Gail to come back, so they should at least do something with her. I want to see her feud with Melina for the Divas title.

I might go to the Maryse signing tomorrow in Phoenix. But damnnn.. getting to North Phoenix around 4pm sucks. =(

If I do go, expect a recap and maybe a picture. haha

sounds like fun.

I'd like to meet Maryse myself.

Oh yea post pictures Sarcy and have fun

That is so cool lol

I will ask her if she is friends with Layla. haha Or something about the Bellas.

I'll be nice and not ask about why white people think orange skin is cute.

asl her if boning Vince good and hard can get her and Layla title runs

tell her to tell Vince they lez up...in the hopes Layla can get a break

Or better yet, what does she think about us Arizonians wearing our winter coats when it's only really 70 degrees outside.

Did you get to go Sarcy?

Yeah, I am going to go tomorrow. I should be fun!

I am also going to tell Sgt. Slaugter that he is my hero for playing the Bret Hart theme music to piss on the Canadian crowd when he was Raw guest host.

LL Sr. wrote:

asl her if boning Vince good and hard can get her and Layla title runs

tell her to tell Vince they lez up...in the hopes Layla can get a break

sarcy wrote:

Yeah, I am going to go tomorrow. I should be fun!

I am also going to tell Sgt. Slaugter that he is my hero for playing the Bret Hart theme music to piss on the Canadian crowd when he was Raw guest host.

That was so mean of Slaughter, I thought Bret was back to

Damn! Change of plans.. My f'n car just broke down. =(

sarcy wrote:

Damn! Change of plans.. My f'n car just broke down. =(

Awww Im so sorrry. That really sucks. I know you were wanting to go.

sarcy wrote:

Damn! Change of plans.. My f'n car just broke down. =(

I'm sorry Sarcy

Ok, back from ye car shoppe.

How the fuck does a new car battery cost $200?!

After watching that SD segment from last week it got me thinking about something. I'm sure we've all seen the rumors of Mickie retiring so she can have a music career and I'm thinking maybe Michelle and Layla could drive her to retire since they said they would make her life a living hell. Even Michelle was telling Mickie to pack her bags and go away forever because no one wants her there so I'm wondering if it'll lead to that.

It's just a thought and probably won't happen, but just wanted to say what was on my mind.

So any fucking idea where Katie Lea will debut? Also what the fuck is going on with Eve and Swagger? Was that dropped? Stupid ass WWE

Burchill is still doing Raw and SD houseshows/dark matches

there's no telling where Katie will pop up

I've even heard rumors they will weasel their way back on ECW..

From seeing her and Paul on ECW last night I don't think this feud with Hurricane is over so they may not be going anywhere

And it was dropped, obviously. I guess when they lost faith in Swagger they just said fuck that as well

The Sexy Vixen wrote:

Burchill is still doing Raw and SD houseshows/dark matches

there's no telling where Katie will pop up

I've even heard rumors they will weasel their way back on ECW..

OMG! where is the OJ face? ah there it is. So much for getting our hopes up WWE. They need to seperate, both of there careers will benefit with that.

Minterz wrote:

From seeing her and Paul on ECW last night I don't think this feud with Hurricane is over so they may not be going anywhere

And it was dropped, obviously. I guess when they lost faith in Swagger they just said fuck that as well

I didn't watch ECW I would have not asked a silly question if I did.

I'm pissed they dropped Swagger/Eve. I wont be surprised to see Eve released now. She is going to get NIDIA'D Come from SD with alot of momentum only to get lost in the shuffle and eventually released. *sigh*

Eve won't get released, they haven't released the Bellas yet...oh wait, that's because they need them for eye candy and stupid shoots almost every other day.