Best IC Champion to NEVER win the World Title.

There have been lots of Intercontinental Champions over the years that have NEVER been WWE World Champion. Who in your opinion was the best IC champ to never have that honor?

"Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig and Honky Tonk Man come to mind.

"Ravishing" Rick Rude is another who never won the WWE title

The Deadman wrote:

"Ravishing" Rick Rude is another who never won the WWE title

reading my mind lol

I vote Rick Rude....i love that guy

lol, the list could continue. Pat Patterson never won the WWE title to my knowledge....Owen...Bulldog etc

Oh, definitely Owen Hart and the British Bulldog too. Those guys were definitely great Intercontinental Champions as well. Pat Patterson has never won the big prize either, so he should also be included on the list.

My top three list of best IC Champs who haven't been World Champion have already been said already.

Curt Hennig
Owen Hart
Rick Rude

Screw you guys! SCOTTY!!

Okay, I know he was and is still a fucking mess.. But he was just perfect as a wrestler to me. haha

I actually forgot Scott Hall. In WWF, he was great, its not until he went to WCW that he started getting lazy and wrestling drunk. Razor should have had Diesel's title reign IMO.

Nah. Scotty was happy to be the highest paid jobber in the WWF at the time.

"Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig, he was one of the best mat wrestlers

Rude. Perfect. (Owen) Hart. Badda bing, badda boom, badda BANG!

I don't really care about the older guys so I choose:

John Morrison.

Shelton Benjamin is also close to the top.

Morrison tech is a world champion, he won the ECW title

and he will soon be a real world champ
Shelton is like Kane, his best shot is the ECW title *i am aware Kane is tech a world champ lol*

I don't really count the ECW title as a world title. WHT and WWE are what counts. The ECW is basically the sibling of the IC and US title. .

And that would mean that Chavo would have been a world champ (even though he deserves one).

British Bulldog
Owen Hart
Marty Jannetty
Shelton Benjamin
John Morrison
Kofi Kingston
Chyna (Haha I kid)
Carlito
Goldust (Hey, he was good in his days fueding with Shawn)

Goldust was a brilliant character around his debut. yeh he got out of shape when he went back to WCW and first returned. But hes in good shape now.
TBH i dont kid with Chyna, although she could hardly wrestle, they coulda at least let her keep her no1 tenders spot and make it Stone Cold v HHH v Chyna, instead of shoving Foley in there instead. I only say that cos she was making history and breaking ground left and right, why not shove a world title on her....although i was really pulling for Stephanie in that triple threat match

ssilva872 wrote:

I don't really count the ECW title as a world title. WHT and WWE are what counts. The ECW is basically the sibling of the IC and US title. .

a world championship is still a world championship, regardless of how irrelevant it may be

UltimateOpportunist wrote:

And that would mean that Chavo would have been a world champ (even though he deserves one).

yep yep, hes a 1 time world champion even though he was ECW champion

ECW is classed as a world title in WWE yeh. but that PWI place or whoever only class WWE, World and TNA as world titles

PWI is full of marks, i dont pay attention to that pathetic magazine

tbh i agree to PWI is fucked up with both the mans and womens list this year

I really dont care what WWE says, ECW's Championship is not the same as Raw's or SD's. It's a fucking midcard championship if anything. You want to prove me wrong? Have a winner of the Royal Rumble challenge for the ECW championship, Have the ECW Title match main event a few PPV's. Hell have the winner of the MITB cash in on a ECW Champion. The only time the ECW Championship felt important was when Rob Van Dam/Lashley and Cena were actually challenging for it. It just doesn't feel the same anymore.

I agree with the person that mentioned Goldust, he was/is a great character and a reign would have been nice for him back in the late 90's.

Chyna should have had a few title shots as well, no idea if she ever did though

Blue Campbell wrote:

I really dont care what WWE says, ECW's Championship is not the same as Raw's or SD's. It's a fucking midcard championship if anything. You want to prove me wrong? Have a winner of the Royal Rumble challenge for the ECW championship, Have the ECW Title match main event a few PPV's. Hell have the winner of the MITB cash in on a ECW Champion. The only time the ECW Championship felt important was when Rob Van Dam/Lashley and Cena were actually challenging for it. It just doesn't feel the same anymore.

lol, Punk winning the MITB while being on ECW was enough to have ppl think he was gonna cash it on Kane, and when he went to Raw he had to use it on Edge. btw...what the fuck is a Royal Rumble challenge? and Lashley being a ECW champion was important? are you serious? he only won the title, because Batista took his spot on Smackdown...and when was Cena challenging for the ECW title?

If anyone really think's that he was using it on Kane then god bless them

Royal Rumble Challenge? Um Winner of the match chooses the champion to face? They have yet to choose a ECW champion to face, I wonder why? ECW is not in the same leauge as the other two championships.

Lashley was Vince's latest project at the time, hell yea him being champion was important... far more important then many of the other ECW championship reigns with the exception of CM Punk and Morrison?

Oh Damn Cena never challenged for the ECW title? Kinda proves my point then ECW is nowhere near as important as the top two championships.

Blue Campbell wrote:

If anyone really think's that he was using it on Kane then god bless them

Royal Rumble Challenge? Um Winner of the match chooses the champion to face? They have yet to choose a ECW champion to face, I wonder why? ECW is not in the same leauge as the other two championships.

Lashley was Vince's latest project at the time, hell yea him being champion was important... far more important then many of the other ECW championship reigns with the exception of CM Punk and Morrison?

Oh Damn Cena never challenged for the ECW title? Kinda proves my point then ECW is nowhere near as important as the top two championships.

lol your ignorance gets you nowhere...its not called the Royal Rumble Challenge...its simply called the Royal Rumble...umm, a guy on ECW hasnt won the RR because there isnt a big name face or heel because its used for building talent. again, Lashley was put on ECW and given the title because he was supposed to be in the ME on Smackdown, and Batista bitched and pushed Lashley aside...that is the ONLY reason why Lashley won the ECW title, and anyone who says otherwise doesnt know what theyre talking about. and really...RVD, Punk, Morrison, Kane, Swagger, Christian, Dreamer didnt make the ECW title important? lmfao the only time that title wasnt important, is when Vince, Lashley and Henry held it

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lol your ignorance gets you nowhere...its not called the Royal Rumble Challenge...its simply called the Royal Rumble...umm, a guy on ECW hasnt won the RR because there isnt a big name face or heel because its used for building talent. again, Lashley was put on ECW and given the title because he was supposed to be in the ME on Smackdown, and Batista bitched and pushed Lashley aside...that is the ONLY reason why Lashley won the ECW title, and anyone who says otherwise doesnt know what theyre talking about. and really...RVD, Punk, Morrison, Kane, Swagger, Christian, Dreamer didnt make the ECW title important? lmfao the only time that title wasnt important, is when Vince, Lashley and Henry held it

*I know its called THE ROYAL RUMBLE! forgive me for adding the word challenge

*A guy on ECW has yet to win the RR because the brand is not important, therfore neither is the championship. It's like fucking Sunday NIght Heat but on Tuesdays or better yet, FCW on TV.

*All those guys won the ECW Championship because they would eventually be main eventers on Raw or SD (Where it matters) and even then only Punk has proven to be a success. Morrison? Back on SD in the midcard scene. Swagger? Midcard! Dreamer? Jobbing again? Kane? JOBBING! LOL I like how you say Mark Henry's reign wasn't important when he has been getting pretty good booking on Raw. Basically ECW is the stepping stone for these guys and I will never class the ECW championship as a equal to the WWE or WHC championships. ECW is quite possibly above the IC and US Championships but thats it.

woah woah woah. as for the royal rumble business. It dont matter whether or not an ECW star won it. Blues point is that when a person wins they choose the title, yet no one thus far in 3 years have chosen the ECW title.

with that being said. even if they did, that doesnt necessarily mean they will be ME WrestleMania. When Undertaker won i thought for sure that He and Batista would ME Wm, but what happens, Cena and HHH do. HELL even that shit fest known as Ashley/Melina was AFTER that match.

i dont think it is a midcard title, uppermidcard. lookin at that list Dead posted. Big Show, RVD, Kane, Mark Henry, Lashley, CM Punk, Morrison, Christian, Dreamer *as en ECW star* and hell even Vince, non of those are midcarders, they are ME/Upper midcarders, or at least they all have been, the few exceptions from that list are Dreamer, Morrison and Punk, two of whome are now the highlights of friday night.

I do agree a way for them to make the Title seem more like the Raw and SD title, would be to have it ME a PPV, but as Dead also mentioned in reference to an ECW star winning the Royal Rumble, this reference can refer to any PPV, for the ECW title to ME ANY PPV, they need to have REAL ME stars on ECW, and as the only ones who are credible on that brand are Christian and Regal *both of whome, even though are credible are no where near as credible enough to ME a PPV, unless it was a ECW own one*. How can the title possibly be used as the last match of the card.

i kinda forgot what else i was to say. Wait Blue i mentioned Goldust having a great character so at your "the person" remark

LL "THE GREAT" wrote:

with that being said. even if they did, that doesnt necessarily mean they will be ME WrestleMania. When Undertaker won i thought for sure that He and Batista would ME Wm, but what happens, Cena and HHH do. HELL even that shit fest known as Ashley/Melina was AFTER that match.

Undertaker even TEASED he was gonna challenge for the ECW title when they had that standoff on Raw when he chose Batista to face at Mania

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i dont think it is a midcard title, uppermidcard. lookin at that list Dead posted. Big Show, RVD, Kane, Mark Henry, Lashley, CM Punk, Morrison, Christian, Dreamer *as en ECW star* and hell even Vince, non of those are midcarders, they are ME/Upper midcarders, or at least they all have been, the few exceptions from that list are Dreamer, Morrison and Punk, two of whome are now the highlights of friday night.

there was a time where the Big Show was defending the title EVERY WEEK against stars like Taker, and Kane, and Batista..the people that were on ECW are considered main eventers by the brands standards because they were in the brands MAIN EVENT on a ppv each and every month

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I do agree a way for them to make the Title seem more like the Raw and SD title, would be to have it ME a PPV, but as Dead also mentioned in reference to an ECW star winning the Royal Rumble, this reference can refer to any PPV, for the ECW title to ME ANY PPV, they need to have REAL ME stars on ECW, and as the only ones who are credible on that brand are Christian and Regal *both of whome, even though are credible are no where near as credible enough to ME a PPV, unless it was a ECW own one*. How can the title possibly be used as the last match of the card.

if the the WHC or WWE title was THAT important...how come they would have a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH kick off a ppv? it doesnt matter if the ECW title match is the last match on the card, whoevers wrestling in a championship match on a ppv...is grateful to be there.

Another one I would like to add to this list is Test; the man had massive potential-I saw that way before his untimely death. WWE kept giving him all of these angles that pushed him then he was just short of main-event status, they cut him off. He should've been a main-eventer during the McMahon-Helmsley Era, his character was primed for it.

So your whole argument is based around Undertaker 'teasing', as you say, to challenge for that title? The entire point of that was to intimidate all of the champions, no matter if he challenged for their title or not. Since when did 'teasing' give a title prestige? If Undertaker had teased to challenge for the united states title, does that give it any more prestige? no.

This whole argument is like saying the Divas championship is in the same league as the Womens Championship. Cena could do to ECW and win the title in a heartbeat, whereas would have difficulty winning a world title on Raw or Smackdown, simply because there is more difficult competition. Jack Swagger could win the title on ECW, but not on Raw, meaning it cannot possibly be on the same level. If it was, we would see Triple H on ECW challenging for it.

Even the svr game recognises this in Career Mode...ECW title can be challenged for at the same level as IC and US, with the world titles not able to until you win these titles.

either way, the ECW Championship is and always will be a WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP whether if it is treated like it by WWE or not. Once a belt is given world status, it never loses it; the ECDub title has been world status since '98. Just now in the WWE, it is the top belt for midcarders and main-eventers in training

UltimateOpportunist wrote:

So your whole argument is based around Undertaker 'teasing', as you say, to challenge for that title? The entire point of that was to intimidate all of the champions, no matter if he challenged for their title or not. Since when did 'teasing' give a title prestige? If Undertaker had teased to challenge for the united states title, does that give it any more prestige? no.

Even the svr game recognises this in Career Mode...ECW title can be challenged for at the same level as IC and US, with the world titles not able to until you win these titles.

if you paid attention, which i know you didnt...it was teased that a legit main eventer was considering challenging for it..and if he did it would of brought prestige back to the title. you dont have to be a main eventer for a world title to mean something...because if you do...then the NWA title hasnt meant shit for YEARS when main eventers in TNA were winning it

Jordan Harvey Version 1.0 wrote:

either way, the ECW Championship is and always will be a WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP whether if it is treated like it by WWE or not. Once a belt is given world status, it never loses it; the ECDub title has been world status since '98. Just now in the WWE, it is the top belt for midcarders and main-eventers in training

thank you

So Sandman winning 6 ECW titles means he has won more world titles than Shawn Michaels? Get real.

any world title is a WORLD TITLE OVERALL...whats so hard to comprehend about that?

Yes, UO, I know it seems unbelievable but yes it is true LOL...and he won 5 ECW World Title reigns, 6 world title reigns if you count that piece of shit XPW World Title

lol it is a world title.
and tbh i think that as far as PWi *although it is mark land* should recognise it

UltimateOpportunist wrote:

So Sandman winning 6 ECW titles means he has won more world titles than Shawn Michaels? Get real.

This so much