WWE '12

Subject: WWE '12 Fri 21 Jan 2011, 4:55 pm

Discuss WWE '12

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Fri 21 Jan 2011, 5:19 pm

Yeah, you're way early. lol

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Fri 21 Jan 2011, 5:35 pm

I don't plan on buying this one. I done with the SVR series.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Fri 21 Jan 2011, 5:53 pm

umm....you can defend titles at will in Universe mode, you just need to know how to do it. also, why the hell do you want a Slammys stage to wrestle at? thats just...unneeded

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Fri 21 Jan 2011, 6:54 pm

^ It is still stupid and they don't always generate a match even if you push the fuck out of people so it is REALLY stupid..

That is the big thing that needs to change.

As for new people I want to see ADR, most of Nexus already in the game, Tamina, hopefully Kong if she makes the cutoff, Rosa I guess, and all of the divas who were on last year's game.

They also HAVE to fucking fix the belts. They look horrible and like they are from Smackdown II.

It is fucking pathetic and we are in 2011 not 1999 so get to fucking work pendejos.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Fri 21 Jan 2011, 7:13 pm

It's not stupid if you know what to do, also you can push who you want so i don't see why ppl are bitching. If you know how to set it up right, just do the shit

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Fri 21 Jan 2011, 7:19 pm

What I dislike is the constant random run-ins and peeps showing up with their ticket to the show.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Fri 21 Jan 2011, 7:25 pm

I hate the lack of moves.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Fri 21 Jan 2011, 7:42 pm

At least you can change that... this year I didn't feel like doing it so everyone's move set has remained the same.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Fri 21 Jan 2011, 8:39 pm

I WANT DIVA LEGENEDS
NOT JUST THE OVER RATED TRISH
I WANT
LITA
IVORY
TORRIE
STACY
MOLLY
JAZZ
SABLE
SUNNY
SHIT GIVE US THE ALUMINI DIVAS AND NOT JUST ONE OVER RATED BITCH.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Mon 31 Jan 2011, 8:58 pm

No more random repetitive cutscenes.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Mon 31 Jan 2011, 10:48 pm

Oh God No another 1 i think i'll pass on this 1 just like i did with the Current 1

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Tue 01 Feb 2011, 7:31 pm

It's fun to make characters. But not every friggin' year!

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Mon 02 May 2011, 4:48 pm

Add Diva only matches/contests since WWE is PG now they don't have anymore T&A matches/contest like Bra & Panties, evening gown, swimming pool matches filled with mud, pudding, gravy or anthing else but they still have Diva Dance off's on Raw and occassional Bikini contests usually around/for Summerslam.

Add Diva dance off competitions in Exhibition mode (This could play like you choose up to 2-4 Divas to compete in the contest and the divas each take turns dancing and you have a press a sequence of buttons correctly in order to gain popularity/crowd cheers with the fans in order to win the contest the Diva with the most/highest popularity/crowd cheers at the end wins the dance contest.

Add Bikini Contest in Exhibition mode (This could play like exactly the Diva Dance off but each Diva has on a Bikini instead of wrestling attire or street clothes or either have a option in the Diva Dance off to choose if you want to put the Divas in Bikini's and turn it into a Bikini contest

Add WWE Hall of Fame ceremony this could happen before Wrestlemaina in RTWM or WWE Universe mode a short cutscene with that years' or last years real life WWE Hall of Fame inductee.

Add the Slammy Awards it could be a Raw cutscene but not too long with Superstars and Divas winning Slammy awards.

Add a Core/New Nexus RTWM

Another Diva RTWM or maybe 2 Divas RTWM

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Tue 03 May 2011, 9:38 am

I think I like my second All Divas Game More :p

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Thu 05 May 2011, 5:39 pm

I think THQ should drop Yukes and bring in AKI for the next Smackdown. Yuke can have the entire current roster and a ton of modes and the game would still suck. The gameplay in Smackdown is old and boring. Yukes hit there peak 10 years ago with "Here Comes The Pain" and been going down hill every since. Sure they a few nice touches here and there but for some reason they take it out in the next game. AKI created two of the best games ever (WWF No Mercy and Def Jam: Fight For NY) and many people would agree that No Mercy was the Wrestling experience ever in videogames. And how cool would it be if AKI made the next Smackdown game, imagine Smackdown with story as deep as Def Jam: Fight For NY and the gameplay polish of No Mercy. Can you say "game of the year".

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Sun 08 May 2011, 2:51 pm

they should you know...take out the 9 or so diva spots and give them to ppl that deserve to actually be on the game and not stupid ass DLC

Subject: WWE '12 Official Discussion Tue 31 May 2011, 2:19 pm

Every champion must reinvent himself, and every Superstar has an
evolution. Reinvented with each challenge, always primed and ready to
strike with more edge and intensity than ever before, he is reborn -
bigger, badder and better.

FINALLY...the WWE experience you've been demanding has arrived! THQ's
flagship franchise in the company's WWE videogame portfolio is reborn,
delivering the best and most realistic WWE action ever. With new
Predator Technology, an overhauled gameplay experience and new broadcast
TV presentation that promises the most fluid, dynamic, authentic and
action-packed WWE simulation experience to date, WWE '12 gives you more
control over WWE than ever before.

GAME FEATURES:

EXPERIENCE THE NEW WWE! - WWE Action is redefined
with new Predator Technology! This new system delivers a fresh and
strategic gameplay experience that looks, feels and plays better than
ever before. the gameplay you have demanded is finally here with the
most fluid WWE action and realistic animations to date in a WWE
videogame, improved A.I. and an all-new Breaking Point submission
system!

DYNAMIC TV PRESENTATION - Witness the most
electrifying presenation in all of sports entertainment. A dynamic new
broadcast camera system and badder visual presentation replicate
everything you see on WWE's television broadcasts. New rendering and
lighting technologies will provide the most realistic WWE Superstars,
WWE Divas and WWE Legends and best-looking in-ring action to date.

CREATE AND SHARE YOUR WWE - WWE '12's best-in-class
creation suite gives you the ability to create Superstars, entrances,
finishing moves, storylines, Highlight Reels and all-new capabilities
never before seen in a WWE videogame! Go online and upload your
creations to share them with the WWE Universe and download creations
from others to add to your own experience.

WWE UNIVERSE 2.0 - Take control of your WWE career
in a bigger, badder and better WWE universe. Your actions determine your
destiny and shape your experience, as storylines, matches, alliances
and rivalries are built based on your decisions.

ROAD TO WRESTLEMANIA - The Road to WrestleMania is
fraught with action, drama, challenges, storyline twists and truns, and
surprises. Which road will you pick, and what story will you tell, on
your way to the biggest spectacle in sports entertainment?

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Tue 31 May 2011, 2:59 pm

thread was made by Quisee already so i'mma merge this.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Tue 31 May 2011, 6:53 pm

http://community.smackdownvsraw.com/blog-post/wwe-12-developer-qa-bigger-badder-better

That has all the pictures so far revealed and is an interview with some of the creators.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Tue 31 May 2011, 8:08 pm

I really like how this game is sounding awesome. Based on what was reported, I am looking forward to the new submission stuff and being able to interrupt a move.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Tue 31 May 2011, 8:49 pm

i think the main topic title should be changed, because the SVR series is now defunct.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Tue 31 May 2011, 9:14 pm

^ Yeah I agree.

WWE 12 Official Thread would be better suited.

I just hope they made all the belts look better, kept the attire color changer, and added some good people as well as retain some I really want to be in at least one more game [McCool].

E3 should reveal a lot more info so looking forward to that.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Tue 31 May 2011, 11:18 pm

stop nitpicking, both of you. if you dont like the thread title..dont post in it...it's not that serious.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Wed 01 Jun 2011, 1:25 am

i wasnt nitpicking, all i said was the title should be changed, because the game isnt called Smackdown vs Raw 2012, its called WWE '12. the SVR series is dead.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Wed 01 Jun 2011, 2:44 am

Yeah I wasn't either; I didn't think a quick name change would be that big of an issue but sorry..

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Wed 01 Jun 2011, 3:01 am

it doesnt matter....some people will likely still call it SvR just because they've become accustomed to that name.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Wed 01 Jun 2011, 3:22 am

it actually does matter cause the series is dead, but its whatever

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Thu 02 Jun 2011, 1:23 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiLQLLDqnbs

Video of game play with Orton.

Enjoy.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Thu 02 Jun 2011, 2:21 am

TanknStar wrote:: I don't plan on buying this one. I done with the SVR series.

My last one was 2009, I think. At that point, I was fed up with THQ and WWE both. THQ (or perhaps Yuke's) had this problem of adding one new feature and taking out three old features, with every game. I remember in one game, they decided to just trash 75% of the moves in the game.

Some of my favorites in the series were:

WWF SmackDown!
WWF SmackDown! 2: Know Your Role
WWE SmackDown!: Shut Your Mouth
WWE SmackDown: Here Comes The Pain
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2006

Hard to believe, but I liked the ones on the PS1 the best, mainly because of the simple controls!

What was it? <- + O for the Rock Bottom? L1 for any finisher in the game. Compared to the combos you had to enter in all other wrestling games before that, it was a breath of fresh air. But now...

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Thu 02 Jun 2011, 2:46 am

These are the latest screenshots of Miz:

Spoiler:

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Wed 15 Jun 2011, 11:59 pm

Hands on Preview from Gamingring!

Quote :: Lets just face it, over the years the core WWE game franchise over the years has become somewhat stale or complacent. While the game has had constant improvements and new gameplay additions, this is in my opinion the biggest step since Smackdown: Shut Your Mouth to Here Comes The Pain. Why I use the comparison, is because like HCTP , gameplay is the number one focus. THQ has assured me that everyone at the company has put forth a ton of effort to make gameplay the number one priority of WWE ’12.

Lets talk controls. While the stick controls worked well enough, most peoples instinct is to hit the face buttons. In WWE ’12 THQ has gone back to the face buttons, which flows very well. Let me break it down…

LStick – Move
Dpad Up – Wake Up Taunt
RStick – Change Grapple Position
A/X – Grapple
B – Pin/Run
Y – Sigs/Finishers/Dramatic Comeback
X – Strike (weak/strong)
LB – Action
RB- Limb Modifier
RT – Counter
LT – Run / check adrenaline

When striking…Much like WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2011, you have the option to do four different directional weak strikes and two different strong strikes. As far as grappling goes you get four groggy grapples that are your trademark moves that lead up to your signature and finishing moves.

The groggy grapples can be performed from pickups, brawler combos, certain weak grapples, and clotheslines into the corner. You get four weak strikes by hitting the a / x button + left stick. Overall the controls felt really good and as a huge AKI fan, this system made me quite happy. Also if you want to use the right stick to grapple, you can do so by reverting the control scheme in the options menu. Although I was unable to take a look at how the right stick operated as the options in the E3 demo were rather limited.

There is also a great addition this year called limb targeting. Limb targeting works by doing a standard grapple then holding the RB / R1 button along with one of the four different face buttons, for the 360 for example X is one arm, B is the other arm, Y is the head and A button is the legs. I expect this not to be changed for the games final release in November.

Also new this year is the “Breaking Point” submission system. How this works is you put on the submission by doing the ground grapple move or the finisher and a logo from the WWE Pay Per View Breaking Point will pop up. From there, it is a tug of war battle between you and your opponent, what happens basically is the more damage you do to your opponent the easier it will become easier to make your opponent tap out. So instead of using the right stick in years past to a tap out, you will just simply mash the buttons. It worked great in past games like Here Comes the Pain and it works great here!

The Tiger Woods style kick out meter returns and is better and more balanced than ever. This time if you’re in a pinfall situation, the section that you need to get the meter into changes every time, also if you hit a finisher the kickout meter won’t even show up until shortly after the one count, instead of as soon as the pinfall starts making it harder to kick out of your opponents finishers.

Animation, this has been a sore spot for the series for quite some time. The main issue in past games was the warping of moves from pins, or warping to signatures like the five knuckle shuffle or the peoples elbow, to even simply ground grapples. Granted over the years it has gotten better, but this year it is completely gone. It makes the game feel less like its ancestors and more deserving of its new name WWE 12.

In the past certain moves would not flow or animate into each other properly, this has been remedied with a new animation blending technology in which it will take one animation and another animation and it will blend them so there will be no more awkwardness and robotic looking moves. Breaking up animations and moves have been something the fans have asked about for many years and this year several moves, signatures, and finishers can now be interrupted.

Little things such as this help push the game closer to being a more authentic replica of the WWE experience. Speaking of bringing you a true to WWE product, for title matches, the intro has been updated to reflect WWE’s boxing style introductions in which the champion and challenger are introduced by the ring announcer, Justin Roberts.

Attributes have been retooled this year as well, now totaling to 12. Here is the list…

Strike Power
Grapple Power
Submission
Strike Defense
Grapple Defense
Speed
Agility
Adrenaline
Recovery
Toughness
Charisma
Tag Team

So now you guys can start speculating what each attribute means for the superstars that you’re playing as. Speaking of abilities, the kip up ability has now been replaced with something called a dramatic comeback for when you reach a certain damage level. Once there you will have a prompt pop up as you’re on the ground asking you to hit the Y button which activates a flashing bar that is integrated into your momentum bar where you hit your dramatic comeback. This is done by running and press Y button. For example John Cena has his two running shoulder blocks and his spin out power bomb and you instantly earn a signature for the Five Knuckle Shuffle and then a finisher for the Attitude Adjustment. While all of this happens prompts pop up and its a war between who can time it the best, it works very much like the old tag team hot tag feature.

Which leads me to match progression, the most telling thing of all about WWE ’12 is how the match progresses from a WWE point of view. As you start the match both of you cannot tap each other out, neither one of you can make a comeback, both of you can walk without holding a body part , you run freely around the ring and you cannot do any signatures / finishers.

Now as you progress further into the match with moves like limb damage moves, groggy grapples you will see the Breaking Point meter moving down to one side or the other, one side of the coin will be able to mount a comeback , the superstars will hold body parts, it will make it harder to run around as your adrenaline will be drained, you will get to the point where you can do signatures and finishers to end the match. The point I am trying to make is that THQ has finally captured all of the trademarks and highlights of WWE style matches, all the while still being fun to play at the same time.

The movesets have seen a huge upgrade, not only are there two running strikes making a comeback…but also the movesets are more accurate than ever before. The moves feel personal and there is nothing there that shouldn’t be. A little over sixty new moves have been added to this years game, as well as there is some cool reanimated moves. Not to mention that not a single move has been removed from the 2011 game.

In past years moves have been removed because they were not the quality of newly animated moves and just did not fit with the tech of the game. I can assure you, removal of moves was not done to spite the fans, that request a billion moves. The AI has also been improved this year with more challenging difficulties, varied attacks and more aggressive AI.

The audio in the game while just on par past years, has not changed that much aside from the inclusion of lets go Cena Cena sucks chants and grunts of the in game superstars.

The camera angles have received a very noticeable upgrade, as there is never a time when the action is not caught just as it is on WWE TV. From John Cena hitting the top rope five knuckle shuffle to when the Mexican Aristocrat hits the dashing enziguri. Also for added drama, a special effect with a brown/tan tinge where time is slowed down. Of all the effects we’ve gone through this probably the best implication so far of Yukes games.

There is also a new rendering technology in place in this years game, as well as revamped lighting. The screenshots really do not do this game justice. The models between 2011 and WWE ’12 is very noticeable. The detail on the face , as well as any text or images on the superstars attires are more detailed than ever. The details on every superstar and arena look as authentic as ever and you’ll notice things like when you walk up the ramp the superstars will be illuminated and when you are in the ring you will see the ropes bouncing, as well as a shadow underneath the superstars.

One downfalls of past Smackdown games is that it just didn’t feel very competitive. This has been remedied by improving how the reversal system is handled, while the game does still use the RT / R2 button to reverse, the windows of reversing have been heavily modified and the chain grapples do not exist the same way as they did in WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2011.

So at the end of the day, we have a new submission system, interruptible moves, grappling with buttons, new camera angles, more accurate movesets, and the reversals are fixed.

The list of how much work has been done on this game from both a presentation and a gameplay point of view is a list that is comparable to the transition from Shut Your Mouth to Here Comes The Pain. I’m going to be honest here this is not like going from Smackdown to Day of Reckoning, because the team at Yukes were able to retain the core that made the Smackdown series so successful. But at the same time took that gameplay and took all the bad things and they replaced them with gameplay that on the surface looks simple but have a ton of depth to it.

Some franchises get re branded and its just a name change, with WWE ’12 as a far as I can tell, just like Shawn Michaels is the WWE Hall of Fame , WWE 12 is what WWE Games are all about in 2011. From what I can tell this game will not suck.

-A

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Thu 16 Jun 2011, 1:56 am

I'll have to see this for myself. They hype the game up every year... and most years it's meh. Last year's game was boring. I hardly ever play it.

We shall see!

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:43 pm

Some footage from E3 with Cory Ledesma and The Miz.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Mon 20 Jun 2011, 2:21 pm

Diva Elimination Chamber matches confirmed to be in

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Mon 20 Jun 2011, 2:35 pm

yay!....

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Mon 20 Jun 2011, 7:27 pm

^ Not so.

Check this link:

"Just officially confirming this, but there are no 6 Diva EC matches in @WWE '12 this year. Apologies for the mixup, we know you guys want it"

http://twitter.com/#!/stephensonmc/status/82909569659060 224

WTF?

I was just coming in here to say that I was happy but that just ruined it.

Is it really that hard to let them be in it?

It obviously isn't ever going to happen in real life but so too is Ryder winning the WWE title and that can be done in the game...

So just fucking do it already..!

They also need to have 6 person matches [specifically elimination battle royals (pin/sub)] with the girls because last year only allowed 4 and that is stupid.

Since when do they have 4 person battle royals that are over the top rope?

It is usually more than 6 but still; get with it already.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Mon 20 Jun 2011, 8:14 pm

Confirmed: WWE Title sizes increased. Fan feedback addressed. Thanks! (Disclaimer: low res image, not final art)

http://twitpic.com/5eh5pg

About FUCKING TIME!

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Fri 24 Jun 2011, 4:07 pm

King Silva wrote:: ^ Not so.

Check this link:

"Just officially confirming this, but there are no 6 Diva EC matches in @WWE '12 this year. Apologies for the mixup, we know you guys want it"

http://twitter.com/#!/stephensonmc/status/82909569659060 224

WTF?

I was just coming in here to say that I was happy but that just ruined it.

Is it really that hard to let them be in it?

It obviously isn't ever going to happen in real life but so too is Ryder winning the WWE title and that can be done in the game...

So just fucking do it already..!

They also need to have 6 person matches [specifically elimination battle royals (pin/sub)] with the girls because last year only allowed 4 and that is stupid.

Since when do they have 4 person battle royals that are over the top rope?

It is usually more than 6 but still; get with it already.

This is the reason why there aren't anymore 6 Diva match types

"Cory offically said that there are indeed no 6 Diva matches this year, because of the so call same issue about the polygons of the hair and their "curves""

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Fri 24 Jun 2011, 6:41 pm

^ Yeah I knew that but can't they fix that?

It seems so weird that their longer hair is the issue when some of the guys have longer hair and you can have 6 long[er] hair guys in a match..

John Morrison, Curt Hawkins [could be in] Usos [they should be in], Booker T [could be in], Kofi, Mark Henry [sorta long hair..], Edge, HHH, Trent Barreta [could be in], Tyler Reks [could be in], Undertaker and maybe more..

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Fri 24 Jun 2011, 11:38 pm

Its just a lazy excuse. Honestly we see more 6 woman tag matches than 6 man tag matches these days.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Sat 25 Jun 2011, 1:48 am

^ So true..

I'm sure they can fix it but they refuse since they don't give a fuck.

They did change some things people have been complaining about though like the title sizes which is great but I guess this issue will have to wait to potentially be solved in WWE [20]13.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Sat 02 Jul 2011, 9:05 pm

more than just divas in games, remember that

http://www.hiphopgamershow.com/2011/06/thq-to-reveal-wwe-12-universe-2-0-after-summerslam/

THQ has confirmed the Universe 2.0 mode for upcoming grappler WWE 12 will be revealed after Summerslam.

Responding to a fans question on Twitter, Marcus Stephenson tweeted
that “Universe 2.0 will be revealed after SummerSlam.” However he did
go onto admit that THQ did not have a specific date yet and he would
looking to get a more solid time frame. However we can safely assume
that the news will come late August/early September ahead of the games
release date in November.

On Sunday Stephenson did confirm the game would feature brand new
commentary but we can expect to hear older lines from previous versions.
As long as THQ includes a heel Michael Cole then VGLoaded will be
happy! Just don’t make his as annoying as he is on RAW or Smackdown
otherwise we may very well be heading for the mute button on our TV.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Sun 03 Jul 2011, 3:38 am

I hope he is annoying in the game, at least it would add some character to the announcers, which has really lacked. At least we'll be able to laugh at Cole whinging during the match.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Sun 03 Jul 2011, 4:11 am

Yeah heel Cole would be nice.
LOL if he periodically just interrupts the divas during their matches..

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Mon 25 Jul 2011, 2:45 pm

I was completely hopeless that a new Diva(s) would be included in WWE '12 this year but I maybe wrong hopefully I'm wrong that any new Divas won't be added to WWE '12. If you pay attention to the past few games they have added at least one brand new Diva(s) or a Diva(s) that is barely featured in games or are non-playable if I'm not mistaken.

SVR 2008- New Divas= Kelly Kelly, Maria non-playable

SVR 2009-Barely featured Divas added=Jilian, Victoria, Maria & Layla

SVR 2010- New Divas=Maryse & Eve Torres

SVR-2011-New Diva & barely featured Diva=Alicia Fox, Layla & Tiffany as Non-playable but at least she was included

And of course Stephanie is included in majority of the games anyway.

So hopefully in WWE '12 we get New Divas which likely would be Rosa Mendes and/or Tamina.Or maybe Kaitlyn but I highly doubt she will make it in WWE '12 maybe in the next game or DLC.

No AJ, Kharma or any NXT Divas. They debuted too late or aren't that important enough in WWE & THQ/Yukes eyes to feature in the game so I don't think they will be in the game even though some people want them to be. Maybe the next game or DLC.

I'm hoping we get Vickie Guerrero & Eden Stiles(Black girl who is Superstars show ring announcer)as Non-Playable characters the more Divas the merrier even if they are non-playable I still want them in the game but they probably won't be.

Oh and Stephanie McMahon but she might not be in WWE' 12 because she hasn't been on WWE in awhile or doesn't want to be featured or something.

WWE & THQ/Yukes could at least add Diva Dance off and/or a Bikini contest as a scene in Story designer if they don't add it in Exhibition mode.

Also have the Bellas do the Twin majic switch in the game as a special ability or finisher

Add Melina's screams to the game when performing her finishers just make it optional like you press a button while she's doing her finisher if you want her to scream like the game has when you choose if you want to pin press a certain button or not while doing a move her scream could work like that or just add it in the scene of her doing her finisher.

Side note:I know the game has more than just Divas & the game isn't all about the Divas but I'm going to continue to post about them because they're mainly what I care about.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Mon 25 Jul 2011, 8:49 pm

Can't wait to see Kaitlyn in this game!!!

Maryse vs. Kaitlyn FTW!

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Tue 26 Jul 2011, 2:29 am

^ I don't think she will make the cut but if she does I'm sure you will be happy and I guess I found my face jobber along with Kelly.

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Mon 01 Aug 2011, 1:26 pm

Finally... The Rock has come back to WWE gaming!

Pre-order now!

Subject: Re: WWE '12 Mon 01 Aug 2011, 4:56 pm

id rather not...