The Women of Wrestling Debate Thread

Blue, you remember, lol.

I did this on another forum, and it really can bring out some great debates.

How it works is you bring up a topic like for example "WWE Should Release Maria" and people would start debating over it.

Pretty simple. Anyone care to start the first debate?

I remember! It was a big hit!! First debate is? Should Mickie James retire? Why or why not?

yes, im sorry but u can obviously see she doesnt want to be there anymore. she has gotten sloppy and when ur once able to carry a decent match against a model and then u cant u need to start either stepping it up or stepping out.

I think she should definitely retire. She's just not as good as she once was, she's regressed so much and it seems like she lost her passion. She's already accomplished so much in the WWE so I think she should move on with her singing career.

i dont take any country singer seriously.

Do you think people are too hard on Lacey Von Erich?

uhh...no? give us a reason why we shouldnt be

I said Do you think People are too hard on Lacey,so I dont understand why your saying give us a reason why we shouldnt? That like saying I was telling you not to be hard on Lacey, I meant do you think people are too hard when on her when saying she carnt wrestle

My Opinion is she sucks at wrestling, and that she should stick to managing,but I dont understand why TNA keep putting her in matches?

tbh its not like shes wrestling in those matches but shes in them to be the "leader"

Mickie James should definitely NOT retire! She has alot left to offer, alot! A heel turn is long overdue, she was her best as the crazy stalker lesbian bitch. Hopefully she snaps with Layla and McCool's antics.


As for Lacey? Eh people can be harsh but she makes it easy because she fucking sucks. If she just valets, I wouldn't mind her at all. The shit Sunny said about her was beyond disgusting though

yea Mickie is why too good to retire right now she is one of the best women wrestler the WWE has right now but but she has had some bad matches because the other person messed up in the match and she would try tosave the match but mickie gets the blame.
Lacy yea your right Blue she cant act i havent seen her wrestle yet but i bet she is bad in the ring also.

I don't think Mickie's opponents are the only ones to blame. I see people putting the blame on her opponents such as Rosa and Maryse, but Mickie has also had bad matches with basically everyone else including Gail, Alicia, and Natalya recently though I don't know if I'd actually call her match with Natalya a bad match but it definitely wasn't good like I thought it'd be. I don't know what's up with her but she doesn't seem to have any chemistry with anyone and she's just regressed so much. She was a great wrestler a couple years ago, she's gained some weight now and whether that's bringing her down who really knows. But if she's not gonna get back to where she was then it's probably best for her to retire.

I would love for Mickie to turn heel again, and SD seriously need Katie Lea

Mickie as a heel would be good but mickie has the body that she cant be a stick figure just like beth and natyla and they are not getting pushed but they have the most ring skills there.
I sick and tired of divas that just look good in a bikini are getting pushed but the real wrestling women are getting the shaft

Ill answer all of these

~Mickie-Nope she should not retire. I think she has a lot more to give. If she is retiring I hope she gets another title run one last time. I dont know if she will be as sucessful as a singer or not.

~Lacey-I dont think people are being too hard on her at all. In TNA I notice the fans want good wrestling matches not ones that suck. I think Lacey should go back to Modeling. Maybe people being hard on her is what she needs if she wants to do better.

~Looks v Skill-I think WWE cares more about looks then skill. Its sad to see girls like Katie, Gail, Nattie and now Beth who hasnt been shown in weeks pushed aside for girls like Maryse(no offense to her or her fans, but I think wwe is pushing her becasue of her looks, yeah shes improved some, but that may not be the reason shes getting pushed like she is.), Maria, ect.. I know that sex sells and all but I think Vince thinks that is all fans want and thats not true. If he give these other girls a chance then maybe he will see what the fans really want. I think talent should be chosen over looks.

Wrestling first, looks shouldn't even be a part of the equation.

The sad truth is, WWE as the top company for some years have ingrained this really shallow idea of what a female wrestler should be into their fans; that's why now and days you have fans who completely disregard a female wrestler's talent in the ring if she doesn't meet the "diva" standard in looks.


Okay, my brother and I were talking about this when Maryse came back to Raw. Maryse is famous for her charisma, but not many people can tell you about her best match, that is if they can remember any of her matches. Meanwhile on the other end you have Michelle McCool who many claim has great ring skills...but is very wooden when cutting promos. If Vince could he would probably morph them together to create the perfect diva, but as it stands they're two women who seem to be great at one thing, but god awful at another. So my question is, is it better to be a diva with tons of Charisma and no wrestling talent; or a diva with tons of wrestling talent, but 0 mic skills.

I will have to go with Wrestling ability with no charisma, becasue I feel WWE is supposed to be a WRESTLING company and WWE stands for World Wrestling Entertainment-WRESTLING comes before ENTERTAINMENT. I know the company is sports entertainment but good matches entertain me more then hairflips, hand gestures or acting like an annoying idiot.

Charisma and knowing how to entertain is a good thing but it should be more about WRESTLING. Its WRESTLING not theater. lol

I think Charisma should be a bonus.

I guess thats why I like more divas like Beth, Nattie Then divas like Maryse or Maria.

I think charisma is one of the most important things, without that you could end up being boring. I think that's one of the reasons why so many like Maryse, her skills definitely aren't that good but she makes up for it with her charisma. Michelle doesn't have charisma but she's had some damn good matches so I think it pretty much could go either way.

you cant choose one or the other
you need to find a happy medium somewhere
Maryse has a lot of charisma, and a little skill, where as Michelle has skill and no charisma at all, so all together for me Maryse is the more valuable, because she can bring more to the table, and she can only improve in the ring, where as charisma is a more natural thing.

with the model/wrestlers some of them have found a way to get a medium, Maria has some charisma and little skill, Layla has a lot of charisma and ok skill, Eve has iffy charisma and ok skills

looks, if u dont believe just look at them. maryse poses during half her match and yet had gotten a title. Nattie who everyone knows has skills has gotten the title once.

Do you think Melina should turn heel and Maryse turn face? I mean in a few months not yet.

Angelwilliamsfan wrote:

looks, if u dont believe just look at them. maryse poses during half her match and yet had gotten a title. Nattie who everyone knows has skills has gotten the title once.

Maryse already had the belt, Natalya has not

This is the dumbest damn thread I've ever entered... well, one of them, anyways...

*Exits*

A debate thread? really? :ewwa:

I'd hate to see Maryse as a face at the moment, she's playing her heel character so perfectly. Melina does fine as a face when she's an angry hellcat and I love her face moveset more than her heel moveset

She was so good as the psycho heel but I can't see her turning. She's the only credible face on SD so if she turned they would have to turn someone face

Nope, if she turned heel someone will have to turn face. Well since she may be retiring soon they are going to have to turn Nat or Beth face anyways.

I cant see them turning Mickie heel becase she is very popular with the fans and the fans love her.

Champ in 2010

Divas
Maryse
Kelly
Alicia
Gail


Womens
Beth
Hopefully Nattie.

I think Maryse and Alicia will be Divas champ and Beth and possibly Michelle again will be women's, could be others too depending on what happens with the draft.

If WWE has any sense then the Bellas will be released, Katie could possibly be released too, just too close to call. I do predict that Mickie will be gone before the year is over

the bellas and kelly! wwe likes divas who are smart sexy and powerful!

the bellas will never see gold any time soon..hopefully never. Kelly could possibly see gold next year I'm thinking.

I am just waiting for the Nattie/Beth feud.

They'd have to be put in the ring first

Nattie/Beth at Mania!

they have been put in the ring and do a good job! wwe just has to make it more consistent! obviously if the title goes on them they'll be put in the ring more...it takes a match to win a title hun!

They have to be in the ring more BEFORE they get a title put on them. It'll never happen anyway, they'll only be used for dumb battle royals and eye candy til Vince finally thinks with the right head and gets rid of their ugly asses

duh! if they r gonna put the title on them they will start putting them in matches more before the win...this is obvious wrestling hun!

the Bellas will never get a title run because they cant wrestle, and the switching twin thing is old

I WANT to see Beth and Nattie go at it and have a feud for WM. I hope with this rumored Divas Royal Rumble one of them -preferly Nattie wins the rumble and goes on to face whoever is Womens champ. Hopefully that be a face Beth.

I think this Divas Royal Rumble should be used to push a different diva who really deserves it.

I forgot for releases I think Katie and Mickie will be gone unfortantly.

They will probley drag Melina vs Maryse out I rather Melina vs Alicia...

Mickie vs Michelle I carnt wait! I hope they have a few good matches, mabye a hardcore match??????

In 2010 I see as Womens Champ Mickie,then Beth,then Michelle then Serena.

Divas:
Alicia (I have a feeling she going to win it)
Gail Kim
Maryse
Melina

I'd rather have Melina/Alicia too but Melina/Maryse do have some chemistry, I just hope Maryse steps it up in the ring and gets more offense

I rather have Melina v Alicia then Melina v Maryse personally. Nothing against Maryse, though I dont like her but I have a feeling their feud is going to be all one sided and Melina will be jobbing to her. <_<

I hope Im wrong and Melina keeps that title and moves on to Alicia again for a REAL feud. I will love for Alicia to get the title, She has really impressed me.

i wouldnt mind alicia vs maryse.

What exactly is so bad about the Bellas? They don't do anything but smile and wave with the guest host. They haven't put on shitty matchs lately because they haven't had any matches. They aren't cutting shitty promves lately because they haven't had any promos. If they are taking someone's role, it's prolly Kelly and Eve, but does anyone see Eve or Kelly getting released because they aren't smiling and waving for the guest hosts? I would personally like to see Nikki and Brie in tag matches.. But come on.